scanning utility?

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I’ve got an HP Scanjet 5400 desktop scanner that i use with Photoshop
6.

It’s alright, not fabulous, but it gets the job done. I use Twain Acquire and scan right into photoshop and then color correct.
The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

Look into Vuescan from hamrick.com
You can download and try before you buy..

—
Robert D Feinman

Landscapes, Cityscapes, Panoramas and Photoshop Tips
http://robertdfeinman.com

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:39:28 -0500, howldog wrote:

I’ve got an HP Scanjet 5400 desktop scanner that i use with Photoshop
6.

It’s alright, not fabulous, but it gets the job done. I use Twain Acquire and scan right into photoshop and then color correct.
The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

http://www.coloreal.com/PS/index.asp

"howldog" wrote in message

I’ve got an HP Scanjet 5400 desktop scanner that i use with Photoshop
6.

It’s alright, not fabulous, but it gets the job done. I use Twain Acquire and scan right into photoshop and then color correct.
The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

Check out this site. Lots of good info here:

http://www.scantips.com/

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:07:36 -0500, Robert Feinman
wrote:

Look into Vuescan from hamrick.com
You can download and try before you buy..

thanks, i looked into that, but it doenst actually say it has any sort of "calibrate utility".. does it?

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:26:45 -0500, howldog wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:54:01 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

http://www.coloreal.com/PS/index.asp

very interesting. do you use it and recommend it?

I do use it. I picked it up at CompUSA for $50. Very nice results without breaking the bank.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:54:01 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

http://www.coloreal.com/PS/index.asp

very interesting. do you use it and recommend it?

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:54:44 GMT, "Orvile" wrote:

Check out this site. Lots of good info here:

http://www.scantips.com/

i saw that and read some of it, learned a few things.

still, when i scan thru the HP scanner, a levels histogram of the scanned image shows wild peaks and valleys in all three RGB channels. waaaaaay too hot and doesnt look at all like the original printed photo. just wondering if anyone had a utility that would "force the scanner to be more accurate" in its initial scan.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:22:25 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:26:45 -0500, howldog wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:54:01 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

http://www.coloreal.com/PS/index.asp

very interesting. do you use it and recommend it?

I do use it. I picked it up at CompUSA for $50. Very nice results without breaking the bank.

sounds good. i’ll investigate, and thank you.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:30:24 -0500, howldog wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:22:25 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:26:45 -0500, howldog wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:54:01 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

http://www.coloreal.com/PS/index.asp

very interesting. do you use it and recommend it?

I do use it. I picked it up at CompUSA for $50. Very nice results without breaking the bank.

sounds good. i’ll investigate, and thank you.

The process is pretty simple:

You calibrate each type of paper you plan on using. For example, I print with Canon Photo Pro. You take the enclosed test pattern (bands of color) and scan it in. Then you print it out on the paper. You then attach the test pattern on the printed 8.5 X 11 page and rescan the entire image. The software then analyses the image and calibrates your scanner using the results.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:34:43 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

sounds good. i’ll investigate, and thank you.

The process is pretty simple:

You calibrate each type of paper you plan on using. For example, I print with Canon Photo Pro. You take the enclosed test pattern (bands of color) and scan it in. Then you print it out on the paper. You then attach the test pattern on the printed 8.5 X 11 page and rescan the entire image. The software then analyses the image and calibrates your scanner using the results.

uh, ok, but what if i’m only scanning for my own personal monitor screen? scanning images i dont plan to print? will it matter, if the "monitor calibrate" is part of the equation anyway?

still, the printed test pattern, yeah, i was looking for something like that.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:16:12 -0500, howldog wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:34:43 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

sounds good. i’ll investigate, and thank you.

The process is pretty simple:

You calibrate each type of paper you plan on using. For example, I print with Canon Photo Pro. You take the enclosed test pattern (bands of color) and scan it in. Then you print it out on the paper. You then attach the test pattern on the printed 8.5 X 11 page and rescan the entire image. The software then analyses the image and calibrates your scanner using the results.

uh, ok, but what if i’m only scanning for my own personal monitor screen? scanning images i dont plan to print? will it matter, if the "monitor calibrate" is part of the equation anyway?
still, the printed test pattern, yeah, i was looking for something like that.

Yes. It has a separate monitor calibration similar to Adobe Gamma.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:45:56 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

results.

uh, ok, but what if i’m only scanning for my own personal monitor screen? scanning images i dont plan to print? will it matter, if the "monitor calibrate" is part of the equation anyway?
still, the printed test pattern, yeah, i was looking for something like that.

Yes. It has a separate monitor calibration similar to Adobe Gamma.

interesting. how will this effect Photoshop? Do you use Adobe Gamma or turn it off? I looked at the box at the store…. apparently its designed to scan and import and print…. without ever leaving the program? If so, what happens when you open a photo in Photoshop? Looks the same, or different?

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:40:52 -0500, howldog wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:45:56 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

results.

uh, ok, but what if i’m only scanning for my own personal monitor screen? scanning images i dont plan to print? will it matter, if the "monitor calibrate" is part of the equation anyway?
still, the printed test pattern, yeah, i was looking for something like that.

Yes. It has a separate monitor calibration similar to Adobe Gamma.

interesting. how will this effect Photoshop? Do you use Adobe Gamma or turn it off? I looked at the box at the store…. apparently its designed to scan and import and print…. without ever leaving the program? If so, what happens when you open a photo in Photoshop? Looks the same, or different?

That one option. I use the ICC the program creates instead of Adobe Gamma for Photoshop

howldog wrote:

I’ve got an HP Scanjet 5400 desktop scanner that i use with Photoshop
6.

It’s alright, not fabulous, but it gets the job done. I use Twain Acquire and scan right into photoshop and then color correct.
The initial scans are always sort of over-saturated, magenta is too hot. Does anyone know of a utility or something i could buy, to run on the scanner, and sort of "calibrate it" to my monitor and system?

Try importing into a milder color space, such as sRGB. Adobe RGB in particular will cause some color boost..

Vuescan, together with an IT8 target from will get you on the air with making your own profile for about 70 US dollars total. IMHO this is overkill, but worth persuing if you are interested in color profiling – for example if you plan to use a variety of inks and papers for which no standard profile or driver setting is available.
—

Mike Russell
http://www.curvemeister.com
http://www.zocalo.net/~mgr
http://geigy.2y.net

howldog wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:07:36 -0500, Robert Feinman
wrote:

Look into Vuescan from hamrick.com
You can download and try before you buy..

thanks, i looked into that, but it doenst actually say it has any sort of "calibrate utility".. does it?

Vuescan will calibrate based on an IT8 target, separately available for about 18 us dollars depending on where you buy it.
—

Mike Russell
http://www.curvemeister.com
http://www.zocalo.net/~mgr
http://geigy.2y.net

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 03:15:51 GMT, DoublEE
wrote:

interesting. how will this effect Photoshop? Do you use Adobe Gamma or turn it off? I looked at the box at the store…. apparently its designed to scan and import and print…. without ever leaving the program? If so, what happens when you open a photo in Photoshop? Looks the same, or different?

That one option. I use the ICC the program creates instead of Adobe Gamma for Photoshop

alright, one other question: can you apply the same color profile, to the monitor? What I’d like is the perfect world you know. Scan a photo. Photo "looks the same" in Coloreal viewer, and Photoshop, and native windows picture viewers, internet explorer, and 3rd party pic viewers, Irfan or ACDC for example.

Good solution, or will windows apps display photos differently?