Win vs Mac

DC
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Daniel_Chapman
Nov 12, 2003
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I hope this doesn’t upset anyone here, I just need an honest opinion on the subject.

I have both a Mac system and Windows system. In your opinion which is best for printing photos? I’m using a Epson 2200.

Thanks for any help.
Danny

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Grass_Hopper
Nov 12, 2003
My understanding is that the playing field has leveled out and you should be able to get quality images printed from either platform. The key is how well your system is color managed and the quality of the printer/paper, not so much the platform you are printing from.
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Robert_Blackwell
Nov 12, 2003
Honest opinion…

computers don’t print, printers do.
DC
Daniel_Chapman
Nov 12, 2003
Thanks Grass Hopper, I have ordered SpyderPRO and PrintFIX from Pantone to calibrate my system. Would it be worth getting ImagePrint from Colorbyte also?

Thanks for the heads up Robert!
GH
Grass_Hopper
Nov 12, 2003
Daniel,

I am now officially in over my head! 🙂

There are many others on this forum MUCH more qualified to answer that question than I am. Hopefully they will chime in soon!

grasshopper
DH
Dale_Halvorson
Nov 12, 2003
Ahhh, the student has …

Sorry couldn’t resist.
GH
Grass_Hopper
Nov 12, 2003
🙂

this grasshopper is still trying to walk on the rice paper without leaving footprints … not even giving any thought to trying to grab the pebble yet ….

😉
RH
r_harvey
Nov 12, 2003
"As of 2003, Windows systems have taken a decisive lead over Macs when it comes to performance," Alspach writes in his book. "The difference is most apparent with graphics applications such as Photoshop and Illustrator, but you’ll notice it with other applications as well. If you’re thinking of purchasing a new system, and speed and responsiveness is important (or at least more important than the feel of the OS, I suggest getting a zippy PC over a (comparably) sluggish Mac."

– Adobe manager recommends Windows over Mac in new book <http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/11/11/alspach/>

I’m not agreeing… just reporting.
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graffiti
Nov 12, 2003
But what does that have to do with printing? 🙂
RH
r_harvey
Nov 12, 2003
Unfortunately, quite a bit. The transition to OS/X was not smooth for printers. And most Windows printer drivers are RGB, even though inkjet printers are CMYK.

Besides, it’ll sink into a Mac vs Windows debate soon enough, anyway.
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graffiti
Nov 12, 2003
Besides, it’ll sink into a Mac vs Windows debate soon enough, anyway.

True. Might as well get it over with.
BG
barry_gray
Nov 12, 2003
Geez r,
Just quote the parts you want to hear.

"However, Adobe PR spokesperson Russell Brady told MacCentral that these comments are Alspach’s personal feelings, not the company’s.

"We have worked very closely with Apple over the last few months as we came up to the launch of our all-new Creative Suite," he said. "For example, the latest version of Illustrator
— Illustrator CS — has been optimized to take advantage of Apple’s new Power Mac G5 systems. The results are spectacular." "
RH
r_harvey
Nov 12, 2003
Just quote the parts you want to hear.

Borrowing the whole article wouldn’t be fair use. There are all sorts of arguments, but the Adobe guy who wrote the book only presented one side. Somebody else from Adobe presented an alternate view. If you bought the book, you’d see just one side.

Since we’re on the issue, performance differences between the Opteron/Athlon 64 and the G5/970 aren’t that great. One then the other may have an advantage, depending on their release schedules. A greater concern, for me, is whether the operating system and critical software are shackled with Deactivation features.
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csaxon
Nov 12, 2003
The new Adobe video collection was released just for the winpc platform leaving the mac at the previous version. I think that speaks volumes. As for printing it depends on the quality of the printer and photo software programs drivers that support the print engine. A computer is just a computer. Software drives it.
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ID._Awe
Nov 12, 2003
As far as Ted’s opinion goes, it sways with the breeze:

There is also an Illustrator CS for Dummies (Mac Version)_. In the Mac version, Ted extolls the virues of the Mac:

"As of 2003, Mac users have taken a decisive lead over Windows users when it comes to good looks, intelligence, and ability to procreate," Alspach writes in his book. "The difference is most apparent with users of graphics applications such as Photoshop and Illustrator, but you’ll notice it with users of other applications as well. If you’re thinking of purchasing a new system, and not looking like your Dad wearing striped tube socks with Magnum PI shorts is important (or at least more important than having hair on your head at age 35), I suggest getting a super-cool Mac over a (comparably) drab PC."
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r_harvey
Nov 12, 2003
Nice find. I wonder if the rest of the contents of those books will be as useful. As they say, "[Toronto|San Diego|Bogota| has the best audiences in the world!"
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Ken_Nielsen_
Nov 12, 2003
"As of 2003, Mac systems have taken a decisive lead over Windows when it comes to performance," Nielsen writes in his difinitive book on the subject. "The difference is most apparent with graphics applications such as Photoshop and Illustrator, but you’ll notice it with other applications as well. If you’re thinking of purchasing a new system, and speed and responsiveness is important (and you also place a great imortance on the feel of the OS, I suggest getting a zippy Mac over a (comparably) sluggish Windows machine."

Hey, I can produce trash too.
RL
Robert_Levine
Nov 13, 2003
Just quote the parts you want to hear.

Whoooo Hoooooo. We haven’t had a good platform war in weeks. 🙂

Bob
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Thomas_Fors
Nov 13, 2003
You probably will have to ask this in adobe.photoshop.macintosh also in order to get equal representation.

–Tom

I hope this doesn’t upset anyone here, I just need an honest opinion on
the subject.
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ID._Awe
Nov 13, 2003
Hey, Toronto definitely has the best audiences!
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YrbkMgr
Nov 13, 2003
But, in regards to color management, and color management alone (not performance), I read from Chris Cox, that Mac has or had a decided advantage because of something to do with the color profiles – ICC profiles were wierd, or something like that.

If printing were the only decisive issue, and you have both comfort and familiarity with both platforms, I THINK mac takes the lead, from a color management standpoint.
RH
r_harvey
Nov 13, 2003
I THINK mac takes the lead, from a color management standpoint.

But the Mac is way behind in Machiavellian rights restriction schemes.
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YrbkMgr
Nov 13, 2003
Yet another reason, no Harv? <smile>
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Gustavo_Sanchez
Nov 13, 2003
I think that in Mac you can choose the Colour Engine you want to use, in Windows you can’t… yet. Not sure myself that this is such an important thing, in any case.

It seems that people really deep into colour matters lean towards Mac due to its having some features and software that Windows side still lacks. But that won’t last forever and I wonder if that means anything for the non ‘so’ deeply interested folks.
DC
Daniel_Chapman
Nov 13, 2003
Thomas Fors – 06:25pm Nov 12, 2003 Pacific (#18 of 23)

You probably will have to ask this in adobe.photoshop.macintosh also in order to get equal representation.

–Tom

I hope this doesn’t upset anyone here, I just need an honest opinion on the subject.

Thomas – I only posted it here because I have always been a die-hard Windows man, but last year I got a Mac just because I felt like cheating and thought it would be better to cheat on my computer then to cheat on my wife! lol I have to say I was very impressed with the platform. Anyways I only posted here because the Mac people I know would never say Windows is better no matter what, but the Windows people (at least the ones I know) seem to always admit when the Mac is better. I really didn’t mean to start a platform war. I only wanted to know since I have both platforms which would be best to spend my money on for photos. As far as devices – I have a epson 2200 printer a epson 3200 scanner and a Olympus 5MP camera, which I am replacing with a Nikon D100 or Canon 10D.

Thanks for all the replies!
TF
Thomas_Fors
Nov 13, 2003
I believe the Mac does color management at the OS level, so if you’ve profiled your monitor, then even your internet browsing is rendered using your monitor profile. Windows requires the individual apps to do this still. Although, most profiling tools will at least provide an app that does global gamma correction under Windows.

As far as printing with the 2200, there used to be issues on the Mac. The Epson driver for the Mac was crippled by Epson and did not support all the features. Epson was blaming Apple, and Apple was blaming Epson from what I read. I believe that has been resolved now and the latest Epson driver for the Mac supports all the 2200 printing options.

I don’t think you can go wrong really with either platform.

–Tom

Thomas – I only posted it here because I have always been a die-hard
Windows man, but last year I got a Mac just because I felt like cheating and thought it would be better to cheat on my computer then to cheat on my wife! lol I have to say I was very impressed with the platform. Anyways I only posted here because the Mac people I know would never say Windows is better no matter what, but the Windows people (at least the ones I know) seem to always admit when the Mac is better. I really didn’t mean to start a platform war. I only wanted to know since I have both platforms which would be best to spend my money on for photos. As far as devices – I have a epson 2200 printer a epson 3200 scanner and a Olympus 5MP camera, which I am replacing with a Nikon D100 or Canon 10D.
Thanks for all the replies!
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Brian
Nov 18, 2003
wrote:
I hope this doesn’t upset anyone here, I just need an honest opinion on the subject.
I have both a Mac system and Windows system. In your opinion which is best for printing photos? I’m using a Epson 2200.

Thanks for any help.
Danny

Given the same image, both platforms will print the same.

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