The easiest way to capture and display 3D stereoscopic movies and pictures

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Frank Arthur
Feb 26, 2008
If you are selling this product how come you only show drawings of the product?

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Frank Arthur
Feb 26, 2008
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Frank Arthur
Feb 26, 2008
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just bob
Feb 26, 2008
He just sent it to every newsgroup so I guess that is his game. But sometimes it’s from someone who just wants to crash a server, by having one million people click on the link.

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You post your product from "admin" ?
Looks like a scam!

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Dave
Feb 27, 2008
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:13:25 -0500, "Frank Arthur" wrote:

You post your product from "admin" …….
Looks like a scam!

Why do you reply.. and even duplicate his spam?

Dave
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Frank Arthur
Feb 27, 2008
"Dave" wrote in message
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:13:25 -0500, "Frank Arthur"
wrote:

You post your product from "admin" …….
Looks like a scam!

Why do you reply.. and even duplicate his spam?

Dave

Why do you reply and triplicate the scam?
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Dave
Feb 27, 2008
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:51:55 -0500, "Frank Arthur" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:13:25 -0500, "Frank Arthur"
wrote:

You post your product from "admin" …….
Looks like a scam!

Why do you reply.. and even duplicate his spam?

Dave

Why do you reply and triplicate the scam?

you are stupid.
Don’t you even notice that I deleted the scam links which you duplicated? Do you see the links in my post?

Dave
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bolo
Feb 28, 2008
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop? Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the same thing….

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Alex
Feb 28, 2008
"bolo" wrote:
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop? Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the same thing….

Could you give us a link to an example of your simple method? Greetings, Alex
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bolo
Feb 28, 2008
No, I wish I could. I have never done it, but seems pretty simple to do – thinking about it. All you would have to do is copy the image and transform it by mirroring it, and then smoothing the edges. It seems to me it would give the same appearance. Perhaps Katwoman, Granny or Colin could tell us. They seem to be the most knowledgeable and helpful (at least to me) of anyone on this group. 🙂

I guess you could even use the photomerge option and merge the two images after you copy and rotate it. I may work on this today. Never really thought about doing it, or why you would. I have several images from the Spanish American war that are stereo scope.
"Alex" wrote in message
"bolo" wrote:
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop? Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the same thing….

Could you give us a link to an example of your simple method? Greetings, Alex
J
Joel
Feb 28, 2008
Alex wrote:

"bolo" wrote:
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop? Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the same thing….

Could you give us a link to an example of your simple method? Greetings, Alex

Hmmm I thought it was another spam so I kill-filed the poster without reading the messages (I believe I saw more than one?). I don’t know what the original message says, but about 3D stuff I can give some info

– There are some plug-ins, actions or trick to turn a regular photos into 3D. I tried to view some of them without 3D glass so I can’t see any sepcial but kinda blurry, OFF photo.

– And there are expensive and cheap adapter to add to film and digital camera, as well as some tricks to turn 2 (some uses 3 lenses) cheap digital cameras into 3D camera. Or it uses 2 lenses to capture the left/right edges/angles of the object then merge them together.
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Alex
Feb 28, 2008
"bolo" wrote:
No, I wish I could. I have never done it, but seems pretty simple to do – thinking about it. All you would have to do is copy the image and transform it by mirroring it, and then smoothing the edges. It seems to me it would give the same appearance. Perhaps Katwoman, Granny or Colin could tell us. They seem to be the most knowledgeable and helpful (at least to me) of anyone on this group. 🙂

I guess you could even use the photomerge option and merge the two images after you copy and rotate it. I may work on this today. Never really thought about doing it, or why you would. I have several images from the Spanish American war that are stereo scope.

I can’t see how you would put any kind of parallax into a copy of an image by using Photoshop, but if you can I’m interested to know how you did it. Greetings, Alex
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bolo
Feb 29, 2008
Well from the example on his web site, i really did not see any 3d effects, did you?
"Alex" wrote in message
"bolo" wrote:
No, I wish I could. I have never done it, but seems pretty simple to do – thinking about it. All you would have to do is copy the image and transform
it by mirroring it, and then smoothing the edges. It seems to me it would give the same appearance. Perhaps Katwoman, Granny or Colin could tell us.
They seem to be the most knowledgeable and helpful (at least to me) of anyone on this group. 🙂

I guess you could even use the photomerge option and merge the two images after you copy and rotate it. I may work on this today. Never really thought about doing it, or why you would. I have several images from the Spanish American war that are stereo scope.

I can’t see how you would put any kind of parallax into a copy of an image by
using Photoshop, but if you can I’m interested to know how you did it. Greetings, Alex
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KatWoman
Feb 29, 2008
"Joel" wrote in message
Alex wrote:

"bolo" wrote:
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop?
Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the same thing….

Could you give us a link to an example of your simple method? Greetings, Alex

Hmmm I thought it was another spam so I kill-filed the poster without reading the messages (I believe I saw more than one?). I don’t know what the original message says, but about 3D stuff I can give some info
– There are some plug-ins, actions or trick to turn a regular photos into 3D. I tried to view some of them without 3D glass so I can’t see any sepcial but kinda blurry, OFF photo.

– And there are expensive and cheap adapter to add to film and digital camera, as well as some tricks to turn 2 (some uses 3 lenses) cheap digital
cameras into 3D camera. Or it uses 2 lenses to capture the left/right edges/angles of the object then merge them together.

I have liked looking at stereogram and saved some links
so many times in past I could never see them
then I figured out cause my eyes focus at different distance I have to turn my face a little and start up close

I made a couple but only using software, I am pretty sure there is more to it than just two images alike
it is something about depth maps
and there are some cameras that shoot it that way

Here are the links I saved
http://www.ixtlan.ru/
http://www.colorstereo.com/1_homep.age/directry.htm (this guy is the BEST I have seen!!!!)
http://www.custom-stereograms.com/html/gallery_1.html
http://fractals.aramin.net/index.php?dzial=fractals
http://www.lessons4living.com/parable.htm
http://www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo.htm
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Alex
Feb 29, 2008
"bolo" wrote:
Well from the example on his web site, i really did not see any 3d effects, did you?

Oh yes, the little girl at the bottom was very 3D! Even with my two qualitatively unequal eyes I could see it very well.
Greetings, Alex
J
Joel
Mar 1, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote:

"Joel" wrote in message
Alex wrote:

"bolo" wrote:
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop?
Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the same thing….

Could you give us a link to an example of your simple method? Greetings, Alex

Hmmm I thought it was another spam so I kill-filed the poster without reading the messages (I believe I saw more than one?). I don’t know what the original message says, but about 3D stuff I can give some info
– There are some plug-ins, actions or trick to turn a regular photos into 3D. I tried to view some of them without 3D glass so I can’t see any sepcial but kinda blurry, OFF photo.

– And there are expensive and cheap adapter to add to film and digital camera, as well as some tricks to turn 2 (some uses 3 lenses) cheap digital
cameras into 3D camera. Or it uses 2 lenses to capture the left/right edges/angles of the object then merge them together.

I have liked looking at stereogram and saved some links
so many times in past I could never see them
then I figured out cause my eyes focus at different distance I have to turn my face a little and start up close

I made a couple but only using software, I am pretty sure there is more to it than just two images alike
it is something about depth maps
and there are some cameras that shoot it that way

You seem to have links to several different types of 3-D

Here are the links I saved
http://www.ixtlan.ru/
http://www.colorstereo.com/1_homep.age/directry.htm (this guy is the BEST I have seen!!!!)

This one requires Red+Blue eyeglass to see which I don’t have the eyeglass

http://www.custom-stereograms.com/html/gallery_1.html

This one has other image ontop of other, this type of 3-D you often see on newspaper, or books. You just need to bring the image very close to your eyes, then the darker (main photo) will appear while the other will be blurred (like Out Of Focus).

This type I don’t have problem viewing most of them.

http://fractals.aramin.net/index.php?dzial=fractals
http://www.lessons4living.com/parable.htm
http://www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo.htm

Too many for me to go through so I skip this one. But I don’t see anything about the 3-D camera, or camera with 2-3 lenses.
K
KatWoman
Mar 1, 2008
"Joel" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

"Joel" wrote in message
Alex wrote:

"bolo" wrote:
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop?
Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the
same thing….

Could you give us a link to an example of your simple method? Greetings, Alex

Hmmm I thought it was another spam so I kill-filed the poster without reading the messages (I believe I saw more than one?). I don’t know what
the original message says, but about 3D stuff I can give some info
– There are some plug-ins, actions or trick to turn a regular photos into
3D. I tried to view some of them without 3D glass so I can’t see any sepcial but kinda blurry, OFF photo.

– And there are expensive and cheap adapter to add to film and digital camera, as well as some tricks to turn 2 (some uses 3 lenses) cheap digital
cameras into 3D camera. Or it uses 2 lenses to capture the left/right edges/angles of the object then merge them together.

I have liked looking at stereogram and saved some links
so many times in past I could never see them
then I figured out cause my eyes focus at different distance I have to turn
my face a little and start up close

I made a couple but only using software, I am pretty sure there is more to
it than just two images alike
it is something about depth maps
and there are some cameras that shoot it that way

You seem to have links to several different types of 3-D
Here are the links I saved
http://www.ixtlan.ru/
http://www.colorstereo.com/1_homep.age/directry.htm (this guy is the BEST I
have seen!!!!)

This one requires Red+Blue eyeglass to see which I don’t have the eyeglass
http://www.custom-stereograms.com/html/gallery_1.html

This one has other image on top of other, this type of 3-D you often see on
newspaper, or books. You just need to bring the image very close to your eyes, then the darker (main photo) will appear while the other will be blurred (like Out Of Focus).

This type I don’t have problem viewing most of them.

http://fractals.aramin.net/index.php?dzial=fractals
http://www.lessons4living.com/parable.htm
http://www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo.htm

Too many for me to go through so I skip this one. But I don’t see anything about the 3-D camera, or camera with 2-3 lenses.

Because I never tried any of the techniques except the more simple type stereogram hiding an object depth map under a pattern
and had only a brief interest in this topic
so I shared the things I had bookmarked
I am sure google will turn up some info on stereoscopic cameras

as far as this site
This one requires Red+Blue eyeglass to see which I don’t have the eyeglass
I didn’t have the glasses either
I made my own using small pieces of red and blue (cyan) gels we use for lighting
most photo studios will have some around, just tape to front of your own glasses or remove lenses from old sunglasses and tape them on

I was never able to see the magic of this until one day I stared and stared at this, I find the image lovely anyway but after seeing the magic inside it I was totally excited and looked at many
http://www.colorstereo.com/_cs1-2/sis_sird.img/butrfly.html

I think being a visual artist actually makes it more difficult to unfocus your eyes and see "in front"
and because we tend to read images in a very literal manner with left brain then that parable site the guy found the spiritual symbolism.. it was very creative thought
K
KatWoman
Mar 1, 2008
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Joel" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

"Joel" wrote in message
Alex wrote:

"bolo" wrote:
Mr. Obvious,

Why couldn’t you do the same thing with the transform option in Photoshop?
Seems to be an even easier and much less expensive way to accomplish the
same thing….

Could you give us a link to an example of your simple method? Greetings, Alex

Hmmm I thought it was another spam so I kill-filed the poster without reading the messages (I believe I saw more than one?). I don’t know what
the original message says, but about 3D stuff I can give some info
– There are some plug-ins, actions or trick to turn a regular photos into
3D. I tried to view some of them without 3D glass so I can’t see any sepcial but kinda blurry, OFF photo.

– And there are expensive and cheap adapter to add to film and digital camera, as well as some tricks to turn 2 (some uses 3 lenses) cheap digital
cameras into 3D camera. Or it uses 2 lenses to capture the left/right edges/angles of the object then merge them together.

I have liked looking at stereogram and saved some links
so many times in past I could never see them
then I figured out cause my eyes focus at different distance I have to turn
my face a little and start up close

I made a couple but only using software, I am pretty sure there is more to
it than just two images alike
it is something about depth maps
and there are some cameras that shoot it that way

You seem to have links to several different types of 3-D
Here are the links I saved
http://www.ixtlan.ru/
http://www.colorstereo.com/1_homep.age/directry.htm (this guy is the BEST I
have seen!!!!)

This one requires Red+Blue eyeglass to see which I don’t have the eyeglass

http://www.custom-stereograms.com/html/gallery_1.html

This one has other image on top of other, this type of 3-D you often see on
newspaper, or books. You just need to bring the image very close to your eyes, then the darker (main photo) will appear while the other will be blurred (like Out Of Focus).

This type I don’t have problem viewing most of them.

http://fractals.aramin.net/index.php?dzial=fractals
http://www.lessons4living.com/parable.htm
http://www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo.htm

Too many for me to go through so I skip this one. But I don’t see anything about the 3-D camera, or camera with 2-3 lenses.

Because I never tried any of the techniques except the more simple type stereogram hiding an object depth map under a pattern
and had only a brief interest in this topic
so I shared the things I had bookmarked
I am sure google will turn up some info on stereoscopic cameras
as far as this site
This one requires Red+Blue eyeglass to see which I don’t have the eyeglass
I didn’t have the glasses either
I made my own using small pieces of red and blue (cyan) gels we use for lighting
most photo studios will have some around, just tape to front of your own glasses or remove lenses from old sunglasses and tape them on

I was never able to see the magic of this until one day I stared and stared at this, I find the image lovely anyway but after seeing the magic inside it I was totally excited and looked at many
http://www.colorstereo.com/_cs1-2/sis_sird.img/butrfly.html
I think being a visual artist actually makes it more difficult to unfocus your eyes and see "in front"
and because we tend to read images in a very literal manner with left brain
then that parable site the guy found the spiritual symbolism.. it was very creative thought

ON HIS PAGE the guy says he DOES use Photoshop
The question I’m most asked is: what program or programs do I use to create my stereograms. There is an underlying implication that it is the software that makes the stereogram. This is only true with SIS and SIRDS. I don’t make too many SIS and SIRDS for just that reason. Too much of the creation process is in the hands of a program; not enough in my artistic senses. I prefer to be at one with the creation process; I want control.

What it ultimately comes down to for me is eyeballs and trackballs. All the other effects you see come from digital image processing skills which have nothing to do with stereogram creation, per se. That being said, my current hardware & software plays on combinations of the following for a variety of stereogram techniques.

———————————————————— ——————–

There are still a number of stereograms on Color Stereo I made with my ATARI Falcon. Atari, the unsung also-ran platform (using windows in 1984) had built-in 16bit color. I’d installed a preemptive multitasking system, and my primary image-processing software had become Apex. When Atari Computers came to an end, I chose to switch to the Macintosh platform.

Currently, I’m using an Intel Mac Pro. The new Intel Macs can run multiple OS’s, but do not support OS 9 (Classic) or any Mac OS previous to Tiger, which is unfortunate. I have a two monitor setup: both 22" with 1280 x 1024 resolution. Though this is effectively 2560 x 1024, it is really only practical working on one screen. Using the other monitor for palettes, and music player is a tremendous productivity boost. For acquiring digital images to work with, I have the usual items you would expect: a scanner, and digital camera.

My main program is Adobe Photoshop. Photoshop is certainly not a dedicated stereogram tool, but I always seem to find something in it that does most of what I need. Since I use it for all my Web images, digital retouching, and other graphics needs, I stick with it for autostereograms. It is my other world.

I’ve now begun to experiment with 3-D applications. Strata 3D works well for a variety of things. I also use Amorphium Pro. Amorphium is an interesting application

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