Monitor Calibrating Software and 10.

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DYP
Dec 16, 2008
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Anybody successfully using Monitor Calibration Software that connects to and calibrates the monitor.

At least on the PPC box with 10.5.6 I can not get Lacie Blue Eye Pro V4 to run.

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DYP
Dec 16, 2008
Just tried Color Eyes Pro and it says DDC initialization failed.

I got a feeling there is a big problem here with 10.5.6.
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Buko
Dec 16, 2008
I just tried this on the laptop.

Using X-rite EyeOne 2 I can’t even fire up the software. Leopard is Apples biggest fuckup!
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g_ballard
Dec 16, 2008
8-core Mac pro
10.5.6
Eye1 Display2
Eye1 Match 3.6.2

Fires up just fine here (puck attached)…

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I think Apple’s problem is their desire to think differently — obviously defaulting monitor RGB to 1.8 gamma, and ColorSync to a custom monitor profile proves my point.
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DYP
Dec 16, 2008
Match 3.6.2 does not connect and control the monitor with DDC does it?

Match 3.6.2 and Color Eyes Pro both run for me, but the DDC connection is not working. Color Eyes Pro says DDC initialization failed. None of this happened with 10.5.5.

Has anybody been able get a DDC connection to their monitor with 10.5.6?
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g_ballard
Dec 16, 2008
what’s DDC

like I said I can fire it up and just started a profiling routine on a 30" Apple display, but stopped because I just did it a couple days ago
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JWeber
Dec 16, 2008
Match 3.6.2 worked fine for me. PPC/10.5.6
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Ram
Dec 16, 2008
GB,

what’s DDC

I googled it:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel>
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Gary_Politzer
Dec 16, 2008
Leopard is Apples biggest fuckup!

Maybe Snow Leopard will finally be what Leopard should have been.
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Ram
Dec 16, 2008
They should just update Tiger with improved functionality rather than adding bells and whistles.
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Peter_Figen
Dec 16, 2008
That advice should apply to many companies across the board.
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DYP
Dec 16, 2008
Did a test on a backup partition on the MacPro. DDC seems to be working with Lacie Blue Eye Pro and Color Eyes Pro. Looks like something with the G5 and 10.5.6 is not compatible.

One weird thing though. Both front USB ports quit functioning a week or so ago. On 10.5.5 I get one message about them when I first boot up. With 10.5.6 I get constant messages. So much so I could get any work done if I wanted to. I have no idea why that is different.
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Ram
Dec 17, 2008
I had an error message to the effect that "family specific matching fails", or something like that, last week and some USB weirdness.

Repairing Permissions and running DiskWarrior didn’t fix it. It took three or four (maybe even five?) consecutive sessions of Applejack after starting in single user mode to get it squared away.

BUT I’m running 10.4.11 on a PPC box.
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CygnusX1
Dec 17, 2008
Spyder2Express works just fine.
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CygnusX1
Dec 17, 2008
Spyder2Express works just fine. MBP OS 10.5.6
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Wade_Zimmerman
Dec 17, 2008
Eye One 2 works fine but on a Mac Intel. !0.5.6

Think Apple is trying to tell you something about the future of your G5s?

In spite of what you guys write Leopard and my Mac Intel run like the wind.

The G5s were very good Machines and fast as well but they always seem to have issues and often it seems, I write seems to be work stopping issues.
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127A540040322AF5992016B6
Dec 19, 2008
hello.
Someone please help me.

I always worked with a pc.
Since yesterday i got my IMAC CORE 2 DUO 3.0 GH.

Now I calibrated my monitor with spyder pro 2.

The problem is that the monitor is 1 f stop too high.
In other words when I calibrate a photo it will always be one stop too dark.

What can I do, ther is only a backlight control on th machine. Second question is, with windows the gamma should be 2.2. but in the information I read for Mac it should be 1.8.

Hope to hear from you

thank’s
Richard
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Buko
Dec 19, 2008
I don’t have issues with mine Wade. the reason I’m sticking with Tiger is the 2200 driver.

Mr long ass number. yes all monitors should be calibrated with a gamma of 2.2 I would guess you have some set wrong like the brightness.

And what do you mean calibrate a photo? you calibrate the monitor.

Also start a new thread you’ve buried your problem in a discussion about calibration software not working in the new Apple OS update(10.5.6)
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Ram
Dec 19, 2008
And be advised that many iMac users find the glossy screen on the iMacs unacceptable for color critical work.
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Neil_Keller
Dec 19, 2008
127A….etc., etc.,

The problem is that the monitor is 1 f stop too high. In other words when I calibrate a photo it will always be one stop too dark.

First, congratulations on your new iMac.

When you repost as a new topic, please tell us more about your workflow, including how you’re concluding that you’re one f-stop off with comparing your screen calibration with a photograph. If you mean in comparison with a print that you’ve just made, please provide the details of how that print was made.

Thanks.

Neil
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Neil_Keller
Dec 19, 2008
127A….etc., etc.,

The problem is that the monitor is 1 f stop too high. In other words when I calibrate a photo it will always be one stop too dark.

First, congratulations on your new iMac.

When you repost as a new topic, please tell us more about your workflow, including how you calibrated your monitor (including gamma setting), and how you’re concluding that you’re one f-stop off with comparing your screen calibration with a photograph. If you mean in comparison with a print that you’ve just made, please provide the details of how that print was made.

Thanks.

Neil
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DYP
Dec 19, 2008
Just a note, the folks at Color Eyes Pro are finding the same thing. 10.5.6 to DDC monitors works with intel MacPros but does not with PPC G5s and probably G4s. If you dependent on DDC calibration and your running a PPC chip do not upgrade to 10.5.6.
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Buko
Dec 19, 2008
I just contacted X-rite we will see what they say, although this does appear to bean Apple issue.
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Scott_Weichert
Dec 19, 2008
Spyder2Pro still works fine.
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Buko
Dec 19, 2008
on PPC?
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127A540040322AF5992016B6
Dec 20, 2008
Thank’s for reply,

First of all I am sorry I killes the real topic
I should indeed have started a new topic.

Further unfortunatly I am not familiar with all Mac terms like PPC and DCC. because I use to be a pc user. I have to find out on internet what this all means.

Neil Keller asked me about my workflow, so sorry if I explain the same thing again but with a bit more off detail.

What comcerns the color the Spyder pro does a pretty good job on this monitor. i guess it’s called a DCC monitor.
The monitor is calibrated on 6500 kelvin and 2.2 gamma in a pretty dark room.

If I put the two monitors ( PC- CRT and Mac screen ) near ech other there is a clear differents in brightness, about one f stop.

Also if I refer with the printed pictures wich I made with the PC ( not inktjet )but real photo’s to the Mac-screen the Mac is 1 f stop more bright.

Now i read in this forum that these Imac monitors are not acceptable for critical work. I think it’s unlikely that Mac the specialist for multimedia are creating a monitor wich is not good enough for working. I wonder what others think about this.

thank’s
Richard
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Peter_Figen
Dec 20, 2008
Just to clarify – DDC monitors are monitors that typically use a second cable to do internal hardware calibration in the monitor before sending data to the video card. These are monitors like the Barco, the Sony Artisan, the Eizo’s and certain LaCie screens, and all need special software to use the DDC circuitry. Apple Cinema Displays and iMac screens are not DDC screens, so anyone using them would not be experiencing what DYP has been complaining about.

Richard – that your iMac screen is brighter than your CRT is a completely separate problem and should be addressed in its own thread – actually it has been addressed previously. The iMac screen, which has been problematic in calibration, apparently can be tamed using third party hardware calibration and Color Eyes calibration software. Don’t assume that just because Apple markets it, that makes it appropriate for your purposes.
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127A540040322AF5992016B6
Dec 20, 2008
Thank’s for reply Peter,

Can I use the spyder pro in combination with Color Eyes calibration software.

Or do I need both hardware and software from color eyes.

greetings
Richard
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randalqueen
Dec 20, 2008
I have Color Eyes Display Pro and took a look, there are many hardware pucks you can use, including yours.

May I highly recommend you call and order through Chromix.com as they will not only help you with the sale of the product but give some phone support on top. They are in Seattle.
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randalqueen
Dec 20, 2008
Lastly Richard,

Part of your problem may be how you are saving your image to view on the PC. Did you try AdobeRGB in Photoshop on both to compare, avoiding sRGB and browsers to view?

Plus – I looked at the iMac specs and you could always add a 20" matte screen if you feel you need. And use a dual monitor setup. Just a thought…

randal
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127A540040322AF5992016B6
Dec 21, 2008
Thank you Randal for reply,

one last question, I took a look at the software but wich version would you advise.

color eyes pro DTP-94 bundle code CEDP-94
color eys display pro download ( mac 1.50 ) code CEDP-D
XRite DTP- 94 code DTP -94
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randalqueen
Dec 21, 2008
Email or contact Chromix and they will help you decide. Goodluck…

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