Sepia on Black and White Scans

2004-03-01 22:39:44

When ever I scan a B&W negative or convert a file to grayscale it comes up as a dark sepia tone. The only way I can get rid of it is to convert the image to RGB then play with Hue and Saturation. If I then covert it back to grayscale it goes back to the sepia tones. Is there a default setting that I am missing to present these on the monitor as gray tones rather than brown. I have spent hours and can't seem to find what I am doing wrong. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,

George

@Jodi_Frye

2004-03-02 00:06:57

George, are they sepia in all your viewers or just in Elements ? Reason being, Elements is a color managed program and so you have to calibrate your monitor with the 'Adobe gamma' that is in your control panel....have you done that ? I'm not sure if this is the problem....let us know.

@George_Craft

2004-03-02 01:54:12

Jodi,

Just in Elements. When I pull up the images in any of my other Image programs, they look correct. (Photo Impressions, Dell Image Expert, Windows Picture Viewer,etc.) I will look at the Gamma normalization and see if it makes a difference but this brown or sepia is not a minor color offset, it is major.

Thanks,

George

@Chuck_Snyder

2004-03-02 01:57:07

George, Elements is the only 'color-managed' program among the ones you cited, so it's not surprising that only Elements would show the effect you're describing...

@George_Craft

2004-03-02 02:06:21

Jodi,

I went through the Adobe Gamma recalibration and it made no difference.

Thanks,

George

@Chris_Rankin

2004-03-02 05:14:17

George,
Are you scanning in RGB or grayscale?

@George_Craft

2004-03-03 02:30:34

Chris and Chuck,

I'm scanning in both. The effect is the same whether I scan in B&W or RGB and convert to Grayscale. I guess I would ask, does this affect appear on your Grayscale images?

Thanks,

George

@Chris_Rankin

2004-03-03 21:43:27

George,
I scanned some B&W negs in RGB and had them come out sepia toned, then I used Elements to convert to Grayscale and turned them into B&W. I have no idea why it worked but it did. If I convert a color RGB image to Grayscale it will be B&W. I use an HPscanjet 5500c.

CR

@George_Craft

2004-03-07 22:33:12

Chris and All,

I give up. I can't figure this out and can't seem to find an answer from any of my sources.

So I did what I should have done all along, I converted them to RGB and adjusted them using the Hue/Saturation settings. I actually get better contrast and detail that with the grayscale.

Thanks all,

George