I was a Windows user for 15 years. I not only designed the computers to market, I was a Network Admin and consultant. Now I use a Mac.

Funny. I see these stupid threads by the same few folks who can't help but push their macs. And the one or two who tote Windows.

Both systems have their set of problems. But really, who cares what market shares are PC vs Mac with regards to Adobe. Big deal.

Windows has so many more vendors and software programmers to deal with they finally had to coral it in with Vista, their first attempt. Signed drivers. Macs failed with clones. Life happens.

The Mac in not superior and saying it is doesn't make you any more superior either but damn y'all sure seem to think so.

What a joke.

You keep up the we versus them - mac vs ps all you want. It does not get anyone anywhere. Solving common issues that effect both side is much more valuable.

Maybe it makes you feel good to spout your love for one or the other. But Adobe has pretty well tried to get their products to run the same no matter which OS you choose. Adobe seems to understand Macs aren't the only OS choice to run their products. They realize PCs make a huge part of the market. Quibble over 50 percent or 60 percent or what ever you want... the Macs just don't have to support the thousands of titles that PCs do.

At least PCs know how to display web images with sRGB much better. In fact, amazing how a designer still needs to design for PCs ever more so than macs. Because of the sheer numbers of PCs versus Macs. I still read and hear all the time, you design for PCs first and foremost and then try to cross over to macs. Cross browser ring a bell guys. But I guess those here would find that as the PCs are trying to have a superior attitude. NO. They just realize the number of end users. But I guess the same 4-5 mac people here will still have something to say about that statement. How PC users feel their systems are the best or run Adobe products better and were ready for 64 bit first. Whooppiieeeeeee. God, what you guys stoop to for something to write about.

Hey, sorry but I get so tired of these threads let's just call them out on it....

ANN
RAMON
BUKO
MARK

What other enlightenment can you fill us with? Mac vs PC. God, give it a rest...

Leopard was rushed out the door. So was Vista. Smart PC users may be still on XP, Mark because they didn't like Vista just like a lot of people don't like Leopard. WOW. Amazing. The consumer is the main beta tester now for just about any of it. Ramon, you on Leopard yet? CS4? Anything new and up to date?

So where are with with Snow Leopard? The perfect OS? Who knows.

And Ann. Bringing up the fact that our PC friendly guy here is not CS4, well... a lot of those with opinions of Macs aren't. Is Ramon? I know you stay up to date Ann but maybe our PC guys can read the other forums just fine and go from there. Like some do here. Hum....

I just wanted to walk all over this thread. Say my rants and raves. Call people out on their superior attitude of crap. Go kneel to your John Nack and by all means, keep reading his blog and keep us posted. I doubt John want to really hear all of this either.

This was a whole waste of space and so you know, let's see how long I can type and waste even more. Let's just keep talking and trashing everything I can and see if I can't kill this thread.

Heck - maybe I should take a different tact and try to get it locked down and closed. May be I should try to get the moderators to do their job and stop this from going too far.

Just the same old same old. The same usual suspects screaming the same old lines. Ramon, really - was this addressed to us who use macs in the mac forums or to PC users who also keep up with Macs and happen by?

You know, even trying to kill this thread by ranting now isn't that much fun. Because I think every one but Ann and Ramon and Mark and Buko are tired of the MAC is better than PC routine. JJ, let them say what ever they want. You think anyone is really going to read it? Or read this?

I stayed up too late tonight and have sleep deprivation. I doubt I will remember typing this. I will remember listing the same 4 names we can list all too often and the same people that opinionate the loudest here.

It is a shame though. If they would stay off these topics and stay with being helpful without having to cry superior this or sucky that... they would actually be great to keep around.

But they just can't help themselves. They will be the first to fire off at you should you disagree with them. They are the one's who are always right and never wrong.

Anyway, guess I did what I wanted... to try to blow steam, vent, release frustrations or what ever... and in all hopes - I hope I wrote long enough that this thread will just die and go away.

Tell you what, let's copy and past the whole thing twice to really make one have to scroll down to post anything new...

OK GUYS>>>

I was a Windows user for 15 years. I not only designed the computers to market, I was a Network Admin and consultant. Now I use a Mac.

Funny. I see these stupid threads by the same 6 folks who can't help but push their macs. And the one or two who tote Windows.

Both systems have their set of problems. But really, who cares what market share are PC vs Mac with regards to Adobe. Big deal.

Windows has so many more vendors and software programmers to deal with they finally had to coral it in with Vista, their first attempt. Macs failed with clones. Life happens.

The Mac in not superior and saying it is doesn't make you any more superior either but damn y'all sure seem to think so.

What a joke.

You keep up the we versus them - mac vs ps all you want. It does not get anyone anywhere.

Maybe it makes you feel good to spout your love for one or the other. But Adobe has pretty well tried to get their products to run the same no matter which OS you choose. Adobe seems to understand Macs aren't the only OS choice to run their products. They realize PCs make a huge part of the market. Quibble over 50 percent or 60 percent or what ever you want... the Macs just don't have to support the thousands of titles that PCs do. At least PCs know how to display web images with sRGB much better. If fact, amazing how a designer still needs to design for PCs ever more so than macs. I still read and hear all the time, you design for PCs first and foremost and then try to cross over to macs. But I guess those here would find that as the PCs are trying to have a superior attitude. NO. They just realize the number of end users. But I guess the same 4-5 mac people here will still have something to say about that statement.

Hey, I get so tired of these threads let's just all them out on it....

ANN
RAMON
BUKO
MARK

What other enlightenment can you fill us with? Mac vs PC. God, give it a rest...

Leopard was rushed out the door. So was Vista. And the consumer is the main beta tester now for just about any of it. Ramon, you on Leopard yet?

So where are with with Snow Leopard? The perfect OS? Who knows.

And Ann. Bringing up the fact that our PC friendly guy here is not CS4, well... a lot of those with opinions of Macs aren't. Is Ramon?

I just wanted to walk all over this thread. Say my rants and raves. Call people out on their superior attitude of crap. Go kneel to your John Nack and by all means, keep reading his blog and keep us posted.

This was a whole waste of space and so you know, let's see how long I can type and waste even more. Let's just keep talking and trashing everything I can and see if I can't kill this thread.

Heck - maybe I should take a different tact and try to get it locked down and closed.

Just the same old same old. The same usual suspects screaming the same old lines. Ramon, really - was this addressed to us who use macs or to PC users who also keep up with Macs and happen by?

You

Kenny Rapadas

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