ACDSee completely SPANKS Bridge and Lightroom when it comes to the following.
1) Displaying thumbnails (whether new or old)
2) Displaying Metadata
3) Flipping through full size pictures
It's worth mentioning that ACDSee builds thumbnails of all my JPGs and RAWs faster than I can scroll the window! Where as Bridge or LR simple sit there and present me with a spinning cursor for 5min. And then continue to be sluggish even AFTER thumbnail cache building!
Why? Bridge and LR are terribly slow in comparison. ACDSee is a mainstream consumer application, not a professional tool. Yet it is what I am forced to used. At least it lets me edit directly in to CS3 when I chose the EDIT function within it. Offers ICM profiling too. (thank god!)
Come on Adobe, FYFS! (Fix Yer F------ S---)
#1
Maybe it would help if you posted your system specs. Bridge, like the rest of the CS apps does need quite a bit of horse power.
Bob
#2
Does Camera Raw 4 open in ACDSee?
What do you use to convert your RAWs--which format?
Thumbnails on my machine in Bridge are virtually instantaneous--that is on the CS3 shipping version. Beta 2 Bridge was very slow. I agree that LR is very slow!
I shoot professionally (35 years) and I process hundreds of images a day--most days when I am not shooting, and I have archives of 200,000 images, give or take a couple of dozen, which are managed on a DAM that makes both ACDSee and LR seem like littole kidddie plastic toys!.
I would use ANY app that gave me workflow speed improvement--and RAW rendering quaility--over Bridge and PSCS3. I have tried them all, will try every new app that purports to offer better workflow and quality, but I have not found anything better yet!
Maybe ACDSee will do everything you need--that is a matter of individual requirements.
But I can testify from trying it extensively that ACDSee workflow for my requirements is slower than Bridge CS3. But, as has been said, you do need a relatively fast machine with at least 2 gigs of Ram for Recent Adobe--and most other--pro level apps
By the way, why are you so angry with Adobe. Their products for pro use, by and large, are the best out there--which is not to say that they make perfect products--far from it. Try Yoga! Meditate! Have a beer or two :))
#3
does ACDSee cache the thumbnails or must you regenerate every time you reenter a folder?
#4
I totally agree... both ACDsee and Picasa are seriously fast at thumbnail creation and opening images.
Bridge is a slow, bloated piece of programming.
On every PC I have tried it is slow and a resource hog too. I have a 3.7GHz, 2GB RAM PC with fast SATA drives and Bridge still runs like treacle...
IMHO it looks like poor coding by Adobe... Their apps work well on Macs but are very inefficient on the PC platform.
I like Lightroom a lot but find its slowness frustrating... so much so that I cannot use it on bigger jobs.
It's simply not good enough to say "you need a top end PC to run these apps" when other similar programs run very fast on similar harware.
Guy
Kevin Quattro wrote:
ACDSee completely SPANKS Bridge and Lightroom when it comes to the following.
1) Displaying thumbnails (whether new or old)
2) Displaying Metadata
3) Flipping through full size pictures
It's worth mentioning that ACDSee builds thumbnails of all my JPGs and RAWs faster than I can scroll the window! Where as Bridge or LR simple sit there and present me with a spinning cursor for 5min. And then continue to be sluggish even AFTER thumbnail cache building!
Why? Bridge and LR are terribly slow in comparison. ACDSee is a mainstream consumer application, not a professional tool. Yet it is what I am forced to used. At least it lets me edit directly in to CS3 when I chose the EDIT function within it. Offers ICM profiling too. (thank god!)
Come on Adobe, FYFS! (Fix Yer F------ S---)
#5
Good call Don. There is an advantage in having the two functions under one roof, so to speak. Even with CS3, once the cache is done, the back and forth from RAW to save to reopening is pretty seamless.
Saving from RAW is another matter. If you are not fully cognizant each and every time, you wind up saving to an unintended folder. With an unintended name!
#6
In reply to all.
1) ACDSee does not regen the thumbs after it's done them unless the image has changed or you tell it to. (and this is the way it should be)
2) ACDSee has many RAW processing tools, in fact very good ones. I have been using Camera Raw since the first version and continue to do so though. ACDSee is just a manager, for me.
3) Yes I can open images in to Camera Raw 4 when I click the EDIT button in ACDSee. It's just best to have CS3 loaded already in the BG. So that it's faster in doing so.
4) Even with Bridge having fully cached images I must wait for longer than I'd like when I enter a folder or click on an image to view Metadata. With ACDSee there is no waiting, ever. (once thumbs are done and when not it's faster than Bridge)
My systems specs are not really an issue as I am getting the performance I'd expect from a my manager with ACDSee. But here they are.
Core2Duo 1.83ghz, Vista Ultimate, 2GB DDR2, nVidia 7400(128mb), 7200rpm 120gb HD.
#7
1) ACDSee does not regen the thumbs after it's done them unless the image
has changed or you tell it to. (and this is the way it should be)
you know, that's my mistake. i was thinking of ifranview. :)
#8
On 28 apr, 10:35, "Kevin Quattro" wrote:
ACDSee completely SPANKS Bridge and Lightroom when it comes to the following.
1) Displaying thumbnails (whether new or old)
2) Displaying Metadata
3) Flipping through full size pictures
It's worth mentioning that ACDSee builds thumbnails of all my JPGs and RAWs faster than I can scroll the window! Where as Bridge or LR simple sit there and present me with a spinning cursor for 5min. And then continue to be sluggish even AFTER thumbnail cache building!
Why? Bridge and LR are terribly slow in comparison. ACDSee is a mainstream consumer application, not a professional tool. Yet it is what I am forced to used. At least it lets me edit directly in to CS3 when I chose the EDIT function within it. Offers ICM profiling too. (thank god!)
Come on Adobe, FYFS! (Fix Yer F------ S---)
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Hi Kevin
Used ACDSee for many yaers now and started a month ago with LR. Have some 25000 pics in the database and LR is very slow at the moment.
It waits for some seconds, it freezes and after a while it is working again.
Whats wrong with LR and what can I do to solve the problems? My PC is fast with 1GB memory.
Thanks
Martin
#9