I run Photoshop Elements and a Epson 2200. I use the mat black and light black inks. Using the Epson profile for enhanced mat paper I get beautiful black and white prints. However I bought some Epson Watercolor Paper and using the same image which gave me great result with the mat paper and corresponding profile, the results are terrible when I change to the Epson watercolor profile. The image washes out with a very strong green cast. I spent 1 1/2 hours talking to Epson running around in circles discussing the most basic issues. Was I using Epson Ink? Epson paper? etc. They couldn't solve the problem and suggested it might be a Photoshop problem. Anybody had a similar problem or any ideas? Thanks in advance. Norm
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Norm,
Epson has some new profiles for the 2200, watercolor is included. There is also a pdf called 'Color Management Workflow' you can download, talks about red & green color casts. I'd link you to it but the session links at Epson always expire.
I had a similar problem with my 2200 with matte paper & matte black inks, my black & white prints had a very stong green cast. Found out that I didn't have 'Full Color management-Optimized for Print' selected from the Photoshop Elements-->Color Settings options. As soon as I changed that and embedded an Adobe RGB (1998) profile in the psd, from File-->Save as, the green was gone. :-) Also, Epson says never to print from an Untagged file, unreliable results will occur. I'm still trying to figure out this printer and all the options.
I do have some watercolor paper and will try printing a black & white print with it tomorrow. I am running a Mac, so I don't know if there will be any difference. I'm still not sure whether to use Color Sync with these profiles or not? Too many choices, I can never remember exactly what I did when it does work, I'm not big into the technical side of things to begin with! ;-) I'll report back tomorrow on my results.
Wish they had an Epson 2200 forum like the one we have here! Always very helpful people only seconds away.
Barb
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Norm,
One more thing about the Epson watercolor paper. The correct side to print on is the 'Whiter Smoother Side', this could be the cause of the image washing out. I was tempted to print on the rough side when I first saw it.
Barb
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Barb
I had a similar dilema with my Canon i950 ptr running osx 10.3.3
I calibrated my monitor but the prints didn't come out the same color as my monitor until I Saved As ColorMatchRGB instead of AdobeRGB. This might not be 'correct', but at least when I edit a photo, it looks the same (ie very close) on my monitor as it does on my printer, and I will stick with that for now.
Cliff
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Cliff,
That's great you've found a solution for your printer and images. Whatever works is the way to go; I don't get too hung up on the 'correct' way to do things. I've been getting some rather odd results with some of the printer profiles, lots of experimenting to do...!
Barb
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Norm,
I'm afraid my results were terrible with the watercolor paper & its profile too, mine turned out with a horrible red cast. What works best for me and reproduces my images as they were shot, along with how they appear on my LCD is this:
In Elements Print Preview:
Color Management:
Source Space:
Document Source Profile: Adobe RGB (1998)
Print Space:
Profile: Same As Source
I think some of those profiles were created to waste paper & ink! Some work, some don't. The fact that Epson offers no support on the new profiles I downloaded this week speaks volumes.
Barb
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Thank you for the help qnd suggestions. Norm
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