Scum dot in CS, but not is Photoshop 6 or 7

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bazcurtis
Jun 29, 2004
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Hi,

One of my Photoshop users has sent me this email. I am not big on this sort of thing so thought I would ask this forum. Does anyone have the answer to the following?

Basically the niggle is, is that in Photoshop CS color settings ‘conversion options’ are different to Photoshop 7 & 6 as follows:

Photoshop 6, Apple CMM: Default White = C=0% M=0% Y=0% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop 6, Apple Color Sync: Default White = C=1% M=1% Y=1% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop 6, Adobe (ACE): Default White = C=0% M=0% Y=0% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop 7, Apple CMM: Default White = C=0% M=0% Y=0% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop 7, Apple Color Sync: Default White = C=1% M=0% Y=1% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop 7, Adobe (ACE): Default White = C=0% M=0% Y=0% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop CS, Apple CMM: Default White = C=1% M=1% Y=1% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop CS, Apple Color Sync: Default White = C=1% M=1% Y=1% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

Photoshop CS, Adobe (ACE): Default White = C=0% M=0% Y=0% K=0% / R=255 G=255 B=255

These values also change further if you change relative, absolute, perceptual intent settings.

Now this may be right (due some mathematical formula), but I would have thought that base values of pure white (i.e. no colour at all) would be the same. Even if they were weighted to minimum highlight for CMYK they are wrong and the scum dot produced is no use to anyone.

Best wishes

Michael

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Ann_Shelbourne
Jun 29, 2004
It appears from your figures that the scum-dot is present in all versions of Photoshop if you use Apple Color Sync but not if you use Adobe ACE.

So why is your user not using Adobe ACE?
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Buko
Jun 29, 2004
Don’t use the Apple color engine
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Andrew Rodney
Jun 30, 2004
It can certainly be a combo of the CMM and the profile (without trying a different profile, it’s not necessarily just the Apple CMM but it’s possible). The advise to use ACE though is a good one. The ONLY downside to ACE is if some other conversions are being carried out using a non Adobe product and all Sep’s have to match. Another reason to do your conversions in Photoshop!

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