How to? Separate layers into different files and then back again..

I'm working on an overlay for a pinball machine. The original silkscreened artwork has been worn by time and by a steel ball rolling over it millions of times.
I have scanned in the playfield in sections and have stitched the sections together usign Panavue Image Assembler.
I have separated the colors the best I could into layers. Some of the lower layers are big blocks without much detail. The higher layers are very detailed and complicated.
I would like to work on some of the higher layers using Illustrator in order to get crisp lines in the text and nice curves on the circles.

How do I separate that layer and export it to Illustrator, and then bring it back in without everything getting misaligned and messed up?

Greg

in article shiYa.33086$, Greg Walker at
wrote on 8/6/03 6:52 PM:

I'm working on an overlay for a pinball machine. The original silkscreened artwork has been worn by time and by a steel ball rolling over it millions of times.
I have scanned in the playfield in sections and have stitched the sections together usign Panavue Image Assembler.
I have separated the colors the best I could into layers. Some of the lower layers are big blocks without much detail. The higher layers are very detailed and complicated.
I would like to work on some of the higher layers using Illustrator in order to get crisp lines in the text and nice curves on the circles.
How do I separate that layer and export it to Illustrator, and then bring it back in without everything getting misaligned and messed up?
Greg

This is a photoshop newsgroup, not illustrator.

":^) ®

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Re: How to? Separate layers into different files and then back again..Thanks Mike. I see you have something usefull to say.
Yes, I'm using photoshop..
I am exporting FROM Photoshop and then bringing something back INTO Photoshop. Are you the local NG content police or just the local prick?

Greg

"mike" wrote in message in article shiYa.33086$ wrote on 8/6/03 6:52 PM:

I'm working on an overlay for a pinball machine. The original silkscreened artwork has been worn by time and by a steel ball rolling over it millions of times.
I have scanned in the playfield in sections and have stitched the sections together usign Panavue Image Assembler.
I have separated the colors the best I could into layers. Some of the lower layers are big blocks without much detail. The higher layers are very detailed and complicated.
I would like to work on some of the higher layers using Illustrator in order to get crisp lines in the text and nice curves on the circles.
How do I separate that layer and export it to Illustrator, and then bring it back in without everything getting misaligned and messed up?
Greg

This is a photoshop newsgroup, not illustrator.

":^) ®

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Re: How to? Separate layers into different files and then back again.. "mike" wrote in message
in article shiYa.33086$, Greg Walker at
wrote on 8/6/03 6:52 PM:

I would like to work on some of the higher layers using Illustrator in

order

to get crisp lines in the text and nice curves on the circles.
How do I separate that layer and export it to Illustrator, and then bring

it

back in without everything getting misaligned and messed up?
Greg

This is a photoshop newsgroup, not illustrator.

Seems to me he's asking a PS question. He's not asking for help on what to do in Illustrator - he's asking for help on exporting a PS layer, working on it elsewhere, then getting it back into PS.
If he had asked his Q in an Illustrator newsgroup I think you'll find he would, quite rightly, have been told to ask it in a PS group. Alan

Try this:
With only the layer you want to export visible, <Select All> Copy by typing <ctrl>C
Create a new file <File<New
paste into the new file <Ctrl V
Flatten the layer and you have a new file with only that layer

Hope this helps

in article xtqYa.33305$, Greg Walker at
wrote on 8/7/03 4:11 AM:

I am exporting FROM Photoshop and then bringing something back INTO Photoshop.

Try keeping the graphic in one program, that may help.

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in article bgtgb8$s7kkt$, Alan D-W at
wrote on 8/7/03 5:20 AM:

Re: How to? Separate layers into different files and then back again.. "mike" wrote in message
in article shiYa.33086$, Greg Walker at
wrote on 8/6/03 6:52 PM:

I would like to work on some of the higher layers using Illustrator in

order

to get crisp lines in the text and nice curves on the circles.
How do I separate that layer and export it to Illustrator, and then bring

it

back in without everything getting misaligned and messed up?
Greg

This is a photoshop newsgroup, not illustrator.

Seems to me he's asking a PS question. He's not asking for help on what to do in Illustrator - he's asking for help on exporting a PS layer, working on it elsewhere, then getting it back into PS.
If he had asked his Q in an Illustrator newsgroup I think you'll find he would, quite rightly, have been told to ask it in a PS group. Alan

If he does all his work on one program he will not have a problem.

Move on.

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Indeed, he's been regressing again....kinda like Merlin, but then again, Merlin started out wise, mike never got there.

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You'll have to forgive mike. He's been himself lately.

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On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:00:18 -0700, mike wrote:

How sweet, you are so concerned with what I do.

Well, gee mike, where would we be without you?
Are you not our raison d'etre?

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wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to seperate a complicated selection (ie curly hair) from one image and paste it to another?

This can be easy or hard depending on what the background's like. Is it plain or a complicated multi-colored background?

Try using Extract or doing this in channel. Oftentimes an image will be easier to select in one of the color channels. There are lots of tutorials for this on the web. Try to find one that fits the image you have.

Here's a hint: work on a duplicate of your layer and make a mask rather than erasing.

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edjh wrote:

wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to seperate a complicated selection (ie curly hair) from one image and paste it to another?

I mostly use a mask, made of an appropriate channel. That means:
1) I have I look at each of the RGB-channels. If i am lucky one of them
shows a good contrast bewteen the backround and the person. (Select/Deselect the eye-symbol)
2) I duplicate the channel so I have a mask to work with
3) Increase the contrast with Image > Adjustment >Levels (i think thats the
correct english translation, I'm german) Play with the three sliders to isolate the person as good as possible Remember: (white/greay/black means in a mask that black covers a region totally, grey covers it more ore less, white allows to manipulate it).
4) Now it should be easy to completely fill the unwanted regions with pure black and the person with pure white (use the magic wand and bucket fill or a pencil)
5) If it's necessary blur the white region a little bit to be sure, that there won't be hard borders
6) use the button with the circle to make an selection
7) Go back to the layer and delete the unwanted environment

Quite short tutorial but maybe you get the point. Sounds complicated but is a very powerful tool for any kind of difficult selection.

Anyone know if there is a tutorial somewhere on the net on this?

Dirk Hartmann wrote in message

edjh wrote:

wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to seperate a complicated selection (ie curly hair) from one image and paste it to another?

I mostly use a mask, made of an appropriate channel. That means:
1) I have I look at each of the RGB-channels. If i am lucky one of them
shows a good contrast bewteen the backround and the person. (Select/Deselect the eye-symbol)
2) I duplicate the channel so I have a mask to work with
3) Increase the contrast with Image > Adjustment >Levels (i think thats

the

correct english translation, I'm german) Play with the three sliders to isolate the person as good as possible Remember: (white/greay/black means in a mask that black covers a region totally, grey covers it more ore

less,

white allows to manipulate it).
4) Now it should be easy to completely fill the unwanted regions with pure black and the person with pure white (use the magic wand and bucket fill

or

a pencil)
5) If it's necessary blur the white region a little bit to be sure, that there won't be hard borders
6) use the button with the circle to make an selection
7) Go back to the layer and delete the unwanted environment
Quite short tutorial but maybe you get the point. Sounds complicated but

is

a very powerful tool for any kind of difficult selection.