CS2 "Roll-up" Window

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Robert_Enns
May 5, 2005
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Several people have referred to the new roll-up capability which, I guess, allows you to get at the desktop? It doesn’t appear in the Help and I can’t for the life of me find anything referring to this concept in the program itself.

Can someone point me in the right direction please?

Rob

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chrisjbirchall
May 5, 2005
Hi Robert.

Here’s mine in use on a dual screen system:

<http://www.beautyphoto.co.uk/proofs/dualscreen.jpg>

The roll-up allows me to have other windows open (in this case a notepad window) virtually as part of my Photoshop Workspace.

You just grab the bottom of the main window and ‘roll it up’ to within an inch or so of the top.

The right hand screen shows how I’ve implemented the Bridge in compact mode, to also form part of the workspace along with the tools and palettes.

This works for me. Others will have different methods of working. In my opinion CS2 is the most versatile incarnation of Photoshop yet.

Chris.
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BobLevine
May 5, 2005
You need to click the restore down icon in the upper right of the screen. Then follow Chris’ directions.

Works like a charm. The Mac users forced to use Windows will love it.

Bob
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Robert_Enns
May 5, 2005
I had noticed that the item you are editing stays put as you move the application window but it never occurred to me to "roll up" the bottom like that. Very handy. Thanks to both of you.

I have two monitors but even with one it would be a great help.

Rob
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Tina_Hayes
May 6, 2005
Hey now that is really cool!
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Andrew_Pietrzyk
May 6, 2005
The Mac users forced to use Windows will love it

As do Windows users “forced” to use Mac.

Too bad they couldn’t add “F11” to go with it. 😉
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deebs
May 6, 2005
In Windoes XP right click on the Desktop, choose Arrange Icons By then untick Show Desktop Icons

MAC users: eat one’s hart out?

Anyway, you may wish to choose a nutral grey as desktop color to give a subdued background thereby optimising cognitive processes when handling images

Thus spake das deebs
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dave_milbut
May 6, 2005
Anyway, you may wish to choose a nutral grey as desktop color to give a subdued background thereby optimising cognitive processes when handling images

my desktop has so much stuff on it that i’d rather have the ps window maximized. although chris’ example of having notepad open makes a good argument for the roll up. i can see doing that with a couple of apps. might try it out some time…
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deebs
May 6, 2005
Yeh – especially in creative mode.

F’r example editing a digicam video in ImageReady (I didn’t know it could do that! It’s amazing!) and porting a frame or more into Photoshop for editing.

The roll-up rocks IMHO

Nutral grey helps to keep visual perception on the action rather than distraction it’s sorta cool too
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BobLevine
May 6, 2005
Nutral grey helps to keep visual perception on the action rather than distraction it’s sorta cool too

Agreed. My desktop is 50% gray.

Bob
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dave_milbut
May 6, 2005
my desktop is my dog’s face… he’s only about 30% gray. 🙂
JJ
John Joslin
May 6, 2005
My desktop has a nice picture but, since I never have Photoshop less than maximised, it doesn’t distract me from my graphics work. Same for Bridge on the other monitor.
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Kirk_Dickinson
May 8, 2005
"Roll-Up"?? It looks like an SDI implementation to me. Isn’t a Rollup a gooey fruit and sugar substance wrapped in plastic? Or maybe a tool palette in Corel Draw.

All "OLD" Windows 3.1 applications were MDI (Multiple Document Interface) Which means that all documents for that application, the toolbar/s, tool pallets, etc. were all contained in the main window. The MDI concept involves a single, large "mother window" which completely contains the entire application.

In the mid 90’s SDI (Single Document Interface) started appearing everywhere. The one that I remember the best was Borland’s Delphi which every single toolbar and window was a separate item.

Photoshop 5-6-7-8 (which are the only ones that I have used)have SDI implementation as far as the tools, and an MDI implementation regarding the windows. It appears that the new CS9 has SDI throughout. I wonder why the programmers didn’t allow the workspace to be completely "Rolled up" so that only the menu bar was left showing??

To get technical, I think that the new interface is probably considered a "Controlled SDI".

Or, I could be totally wrong. 🙂

Kirk
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dave_milbut
May 8, 2005
Or, I could be totally wrong

no that’s a good explination. personally i like the new freedom it gives me. thumbs up on this one.
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deebs
May 8, 2005
An MDI sounds good – maybe an interim multi-SDI is better?
KD
Kirk_Dickinson
May 8, 2005
Developers are getting away from MDI for the most part.

I wasn’t criticizing the change to PS9’s interface. It looks like a very good change, most especially for people using multiple monitors.

Personally, I probably won’t use it because I have a single 23" monitor and usually run the pallettes clear out to the side, then expand PS as big as I can without the pallettes overlapping the workspace. With the new features, I think I will continue to work the same way because I don’t need the distraction of other programs that are open on the desktop. However, if I ever get that second monitor that I have been wanting, I would probably change my prefered method of working in PS.

I just was commenting on the fact that the change is being called "Rollup". Is that an Adobe term? Or did it just pop up as a description of what you can do with the workspace?

Kirk
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deebs
May 9, 2005
In all fairness it is good and maybe could be better?

I like the workflow potential of having several apps transparently available . Maybe one of these days a dual monitor set up would be nice.

I guess this is off target a bit but are there any recommendations about LCD TFT dual monitor set-ups?

Favorite combinations and the like?
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dave_milbut
May 9, 2005
who wants all those lines in their image?!! it would drive me nuts!
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deebs
May 9, 2005
I like the triple arrangement with larger screen in the centre + detachable side panels to left and right.

I wonder if one could zoom in on one monitor and edit while scrutinising edits on another at a different zoom rating?
JJ
John Joslin
May 9, 2005
Yes.

Window > Arrange > New Window for <File.XXX> . Drag it to the other monitor.

Cool B)
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SpaceGirl
May 12, 2005
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Hi Robert.

Here’s mine in use on a dual screen system:

<http://www.beautyphoto.co.uk/proofs/dualscreen.jpg>
The roll-up allows me to have other windows open (in this case a notepad window) virtually as part of my Photoshop Workspace.

You just grab the bottom of the main window and ‘roll it up’ to within an inch or so of the top.
The right hand screen shows how I’ve implemented the Bridge in compact mode, to also form part of the workspace along with the tools and palettes.

This works for me. Others will have different methods of working. In my opinion CS2 is the most versatile incarnation of Photoshop yet.

Chris.

Ooooh didn’t notice THAT new feature! Kinda like that!



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