Newbie swap file size question PS6

Hi all,
I got all clever and deleted my swap file in Win XP Pro to nothing because I heard that with 1 GB ram it was no longer necessary. Then I tried to start PS6 after reinstalling it on a clean HD and got an error message about 'not enough memory'. What should I do? Surely, ! Gig is enough memory and if not what should my swap file be set to (both places).
Thanks in advance,
Bobsen

Bob Bobsen wrote in
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Hi all,
I got all clever and deleted my swap file in Win XP Pro to nothing because I heard that with 1 GB ram it was no longer necessary.

It really isn't, despite dire warning of nasty consequences, terrible performance, and probably dogs and cats living together. Windows runs faster and MOST software is quite happy.

Then I
tried to start PS6 after reinstalling it on a clean HD and got an error message about 'not enough memory'.

The exception to the rule is, of course, Adobe software, whose programmers believe the swapfile is so sacred they make it impossible to use most of their software without it turned on.

What should I do?

I have mine set to 128MB. This seems to make the worst offenders (InDesign and Photoshop) happy enough, and keeps swapfile access pretty much unnoticeable.

Surely, 1 Gig is enough memory

I forget the name of it, but there is a law that rules out any size of RAM as being "enough". Right now, that much not too bad, but More Is Always Better. I'm using 4GB on this machine.

and if not what should my swap file be set to
(both places).

If you're talking about Photoshop scratch, you don't control the size.

Thanks in advance,
Bobsen

You bet.

Thanks for the info, I will try 128 mbs...
Regards,
Bobsen

Thomas Madsen wrote:

I'm only saying that 128 MB is by far enough here.

Isn't enough. Sorry.

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:16:01 +0200, Bob Bobsen
scribbled:

Hi all,
I got all clever and deleted my swap file in Win XP Pro to nothing because I heard that with 1 GB ram it was no longer necessary. Then I

You heard wrong.

tried to start PS6 after reinstalling it on a clean HD and got an error message about 'not enough memory'. What should I do? Surely, ! Gig is enough memory and if not what should my swap file be set to (both places).
Thanks in advance,
Bobsen

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 02:07:08 +0100, Hecate
scribbled:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:15:45 +0200, Thomas Madsen
wrote:

Bob Bobsen wrote:

I got all clever and deleted my swap file in Win XP Pro to nothing because I heard that with 1 GB ram it was no longer necessary.

Then you were misinformed.

Not quite. He should have been told that y7ou don't need a swap file unl;ess you use Adobe software (and one or two other ill-behaved memory hogs).

This is also incorrect.

Thomas Madsen wrote in
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Thomas Madsen wrote:

I'm only saying that 128 MB is by far enough here.

Isn't enough. Sorry.

Heh. No technology can defeat the power of typos.

Yes, it most certainly is, which any reader is invited to try, since it's unlikely I'll have he chance to demonstrate it first hand to anyone here.

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 02:07:08 +0100, Hecate
scribbled:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:15:45 +0200, Thomas Madsen
wrote:

Bob Bobsen wrote:

I got all clever and deleted my swap file in Win XP Pro to nothing because I heard that with 1 GB ram it was no longer necessary.

Then you were misinformed.

Not quite. He should have been told that y7ou don't need a swap file unl;ess you use Adobe software (and one or two other ill-behaved memory hogs).

This is also incorrect.

Only trivially so, since Hecate and I certainly haven't had the opportunity to try *every* piece of non-adobe software made for the PC.

But I haven't found a *single* other app that misbehaves without swapfile. And no games (espcially games!). Without exception, everything else I've tried runs like a demon without Windows amusing itself with the hard drive in the background.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:41:15 +0200, Thomas Madsen
wrote:

Hecate wrote:

Not quite. He should have been told that y7ou don't need a swap file unl;ess you use Adobe software (and one or two other ill-behaved memory hogs).

True. In this case he uses Adobe software so he can't do without a page file. Therefore he was misinformed. :)

LOL!

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Hecate
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:40:04 GMT, Eric Gill w

Not quite. He should have been told that y7ou don't need a swap file unl;ess you use Adobe software (and one or two other ill-behaved memory hogs).

This is also incorrect.

Only trivially so, since Hecate and I certainly haven't had the opportunity to try *every* piece of non-adobe software made for the PC.
But I haven't found a *single* other app that misbehaves without swapfile. And no games (espcially games!). Without exception, everything else I've tried runs like a demon without Windows amusing itself with the hard drive in the background.

Same hear. I did try your idea out, but found that my personal minimum was twice that i.e. 256Mb. If it wasn't for those aps I mentioned, especially the Adobe ones, I figure I cou;ld run the whole system without a swap disk at all. I actually got to the stage where I was considering having two separate Win installations - one with swap disk for using Adobe, and without for using everything else, but it's more hassle than I have time for at the moment :)

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Hecate
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I got all clever and deleted my swap file in Win XP Pro to nothing because I heard that with 1 GB ram it was no longer necessary. Then I tried to start PS6 after reinstalling it on a clean HD and got an error message about 'not enough memory'. What should I do? Surely, ! Gig is enough memory and if not what should my swap file be set to (both places).

Obviously, you heard wrong. What are you going to do, argue about it? :-)
Put your swap file back, with either the default setting or "Windows Managed". Then get on with doing some work.