Photoshop 3.0 on Windows XP pro

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

"Bubba" wrote in message

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

I doubt it, since it was written to run on Win 95, and was released what, 7 or 8 years before xp was even released?

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"Bubba" wrote in message

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Bubba wrote:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Try setting the 'Compatibility' to Windows 95 first.

jan

Why would you want to ? It is such an old version and you can't even upgrade to CS2 from it. Haven't you ever bought an upgrade for it over the last 8 years or so ? Try comparing what that version will do ... compared to CS & CS2 !

Craig Flory

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have enough memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Yes, you can upgrade from PS3 to CS2 and I am quite sure PS3 will run in XP 2 as well. Try it.

On Sat, 07 May 2005 23:53:04 GMT, "Craig Flory" wrote:

Why would you want to ? It is such an old version and you can't even upgrade to CS2 from it. Haven't you ever bought an upgrade for it over the last 8 years or so ? Try comparing what that version will do ... compared to CS & CS2 !

Craig Flory

because PS is expensive.
And in my language we've got a saying that says
it is better to have half an egg then having empty an empty shell.

Dave

On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:54:33 +0200, DD wrote:

On Sat, 07 May 2005 23:53:04 GMT, "Craig Flory" wrote:

Why would you want to ? It is such an old version and you can't even upgrade to CS2 from it. Haven't you ever bought an upgrade for it over the last 8 years or so ? Try comparing what that version will do ... compared to CS & CS2 !

Craig Flory

because PS is expensive.
And in my language we've got a saying that says
it is better to have half an egg then having empty an empty shell.
Dave

Sorry for this one. I meant:
And in my language we've got a saying that says:
it is better to have half an egg then having an empty shell. (You shoel have a version therefore in English as well.)

Dave

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

???????

"toby" wrote in news:1115564560.046448.134890 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

???????

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Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation, I just tested it, and it works. However, it may require tweaking of paging file settings, as initially it refused to run when the page file was >1GB (the infamous "There is not enough memory (RAM) to launch Photoshop").

With XP's paging file turned off (Control
Panel->System->Advanced->Performance Settings->Advanced->Virtual Memory), or set to a minimum size of 512MB (max 2048MB), it launched and ran fine. Restart for paging file settings to take effect.

Sounds like a statement from someone with half a br.....

On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:54:33 +0200, DD wrote:

On Sat, 07 May 2005 23:53:04 GMT, "Craig Flory" wrote:

Why would you want to ? It is such an old version and you can't even upgrade to CS2 from it. Haven't you ever bought an upgrade for it over the last 8 years or so ? Try comparing what that version will do ... compared to CS & CS2 !

Craig Flory

because PS is expensive.
And in my language we've got a saying that says
it is better to have half an egg then having empty an empty shell.
Dave

"toby" wrote in news:1115579248.795895.316670 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation,

The only thing I was speculating on was the amount of RAM in Bubba's machine.

You appear to be unburdened by modern hardware. If he's in the same boat as you, your advice will work.

<snip>

"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"toby" wrote in news:1115579248.795895.316670 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation,

The only thing I was speculating on was the amount of RAM in Bubba's machine.

You appear to be unburdened by modern hardware. If he's in the same boat

as

you, your advice will work.

<snip>

Jeesh, Eric. Just admit you were throwing out theories instead of knowledge. Toby went the mile to prove it worked.

Eric Gill wrote:

"toby" wrote in

news:1115579248.795895.316670

@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP

Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to

have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation,

The only thing I was speculating on was the amount of RAM in Bubba's machine.

You appear to be unburdened by modern hardware. If he's in the same

boat as

you, your advice will work.

P4, 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM. XP Pro+SP2.

<snip>

"Scrufff" wrote in
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"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"toby" wrote in
news:1115579248.795895.316670 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation,

The only thing I was speculating on was the amount of RAM in Bubba's machine.

You appear to be unburdened by modern hardware. If he's in the same boat

as

you, your advice will work.

<snip>

Jeesh, Eric. Just admit you were throwing out theories instead of knowledge.

If I were, I would.

The issue is well known, and was fixed with the Photoshop 4.01 update.

"This update incorporates a number of fixes and performance enhancements including:

Photoshop 4.0.1 supports computers with more than 1 GB of RAM. In addition, Photoshop can create a scratch disk on a hard disk partition or volume that is greater than 2 GB. "

The 1GB includes swapfile.

Toby went the mile to prove it worked.

We already knew it worked.

On low memory machines.

As I said.

Eric Gill wrote:

"Scrufff" wrote in
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"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"toby" wrote in
news:1115579248.795895.316670 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation,

The only thing I was speculating on was the amount of RAM in

Bubba's

machine.

You appear to be unburdened by modern hardware. If he's in the

same

boat

as

you, your advice will work.

<snip>

Jeesh, Eric. Just admit you were throwing out theories instead of knowledge.

If I were, I would.

The issue is well known, and was fixed with the Photoshop 4.01

update.

"This update incorporates a number of fixes and performance

enhancements

including:

Photoshop 4.0.1 supports computers with more than 1 GB of RAM. In

addition,

Photoshop can create a scratch disk on a hard disk partition or

volume that

is greater than 2 GB. "

A day late and a dollar short, but better than nothing.

The 1GB includes swapfile.

I hate to split hairs, but if I have configured the paging file at an initial size of 512MB, and my physical RAM is 1GB (a configuration that allows PS3 to run), how does this notional total of 1.5GB "including swapfile" tally with your assertion above?

Toby went the mile to prove it worked.

We already knew it worked.

On low memory machines.

As I said.

If you don't want your gnomic remarks dismissed as conjecture, supply relevant detail.

"toby" wrote in message

Eric Gill wrote:

"Scrufff" wrote in
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"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"toby" wrote in
news:1115579248.795895.316670 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation,

The only thing I was speculating on was the amount of RAM in

Bubba's

machine.

You appear to be unburdened by modern hardware. If he's in the

same

boat

as

you, your advice will work.

<snip>

Jeesh, Eric. Just admit you were throwing out theories instead of knowledge.

If I were, I would.

The issue is well known, and was fixed with the Photoshop 4.01

update.

"This update incorporates a number of fixes and performance

enhancements

including:

Photoshop 4.0.1 supports computers with more than 1 GB of RAM. In

addition,

Photoshop can create a scratch disk on a hard disk partition or

volume that

is greater than 2 GB. "

A day late and a dollar short, but better than nothing.

The 1GB includes swapfile.

I hate to split hairs, but if I have configured the paging file at an initial size of 512MB, and my physical RAM is 1GB (a configuration that allows PS3 to run), how does this notional total of 1.5GB "including swapfile" tally with your assertion above?

Toby went the mile to prove it worked.

We already knew it worked.

On low memory machines.

As I said.

If you don't want your gnomic remarks dismissed as conjecture, supply relevant detail.

Eric is pretty damned helpful around here and is a great asset to this ng. I'm not dogging him, just complimenting Toby for actually proving what actually works.

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Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

???????

Eric is probably right, though one might be surprised at what can be made to run on XP by setting the compatibility to a previous OS - only a test will work. Now, back to Eric's comment. Many programs were designed to see (and test for) a certain quantity of memory. Back in PS3 days it was probably 512 MB, or maybe 1024 MB. Painter (up until v6, IIRC) would work with 512 MB RAM, but if your system had more, then it yields an "Out Of Memory" error, because it topped out at 512 MB. More was not recognized at all. I had to build one machine with JUST 512 RAM to run older Painter, and several 3-D paint programs, as all of my new machines had too much RAM for them to run. I've been told that there is a way to set the RAM allocation for certain programs in XP, but cannot find that "way." All of the compatibility selections, that I can find, deal only with the OS compatibility and will not allow these older programs to function, when the memory is above (1024, in my case). Remember, they were designed when 512 MB was considered the top limit of RAM one was likely to have.

Hunt

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Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

Tired of speculation, I just tested it, and it works. However, it may require tweaking of paging file settings, as initially it refused to run when the page file was >1GB (the infamous "There is not enough memory (RAM) to launch Photoshop").

With XP's paging file turned off (Control
Panel->System->Advanced->Performance Settings->Advanced->Virtual Memory), or set to a minimum size of 512MB (max 2048MB), it launched and ran fine. Restart for paging file settings to take effect.

Ah, that must be the setting that I have been looking for! Thanks. You do say that a "re-start" is needed, though. While not a deal breaker, that is less than ideal. Since I have Painter 5 on my laptop, I will try it, and see if that makes a difference. Hey, a re-start is not the end of my world.

Thanks for the info - I just didn't know where to look, beyond the obvious.

Hunt

Hunt wrote:

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Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP

Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to

have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

???????

Eric is probably right, though one might be surprised at what can be

made to

run on XP by setting the compatibility to a previous OS - only a test

will

work. ... I had to build one
machine with JUST 512 RAM to run older Painter, and several 3-D paint

programs, as all of my new machines had too much RAM for them to run.

I've

been told that there is a way to set the RAM allocation for certain

programs

in XP, but cannot find that "way." All of the compatibility

selections, that I

can find, deal only with the OS compatibility and will not allow

these older

programs to function, when the memory is above (1024, in my case).

Remember,

they were designed when 512 MB was considered the top limit of RAM

one was

likely to have.

You could try the paging file workaround that was effective for PS3 (initial size 512MB). Disabling the paging file also worked, but that's probably not a great idea for everything else you want to run on the machine.

Hunt

"Hunt" wrote in message

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Eric Gill wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in news:%77fe.3680$:

Will Photoshop Version 3.0 work if I install it on Windows XP Pro?

Unlikely, since any machine running XP pro is almost certain to have

enough

memory that PS 3 will simply fail to run.

???????

Eric is probably right, though one might be surprised at what can be made

to

run on XP by setting the compatibility to a previous OS - only a test will work. Now, back to Eric's comment. Many programs were designed to see (and test for) a certain quantity of memory. Back in PS3 days it was probably

512

MB, or maybe 1024 MB. Painter (up until v6, IIRC) would work with 512 MB

RAM,

but if your system had more, then it yields an "Out Of Memory" error,

because

it topped out at 512 MB. More was not recognized at all. I had to build

one

machine with JUST 512 RAM to run older Painter, and several 3-D paint programs, as all of my new machines had too much RAM for them to run. I've been told that there is a way to set the RAM allocation for certain

programs

in XP, but cannot find that "way." All of the compatibility selections,

that I

can find, deal only with the OS compatibility and will not allow these

older

programs to function, when the memory is above (1024, in my case).

Remember,

they were designed when 512 MB was considered the top limit of RAM one was likely to have.

Hunt

That's great, but ultimately it runs with XP, and that was the debate.