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If you think the envelope of a letter is for the message how on earth would you ever be capable of handling a camera?

"Dave" wrote in message

If you think the envelope of a letter is for the message how on earth would you ever be capable of handling a camera?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nah. He sent a postcard.

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:07:28 GMT, "Leo Lichtman" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

If you think the envelope of a letter is for the message how on earth would you ever be capable of handling a camera?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nah. He sent a postcard.

‘kay.. here’s a photo for the postcard:-)
http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-975_2319736,00. html

"Dave" wrote in message

‘kay.. here’s a photo for the postcard:-)
http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-975_2319736,00. html

What language IS that? I could understand a lot of it, but I’ve never seen it before? Is it a joke?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:22:54 -0500, "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

‘kay.. here’s a photo for the postcard:-)
http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-975_2319736,00. html

What language IS that? I could understand a lot of it, but I’ve never seen it before? Is it a joke?

Afrikaans, isn’t it? There are almost 6 million speakers of Afrikaans in South Africa. Someone who speaks Dutch could probably follow it pretty well. Surely you noticed that the webpage originates in South Africa. I think "Beeld" translates roughly to "image".

—
Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:07:52 -0400, tony cooper
wrote:

On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:22:54 -0500, "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

‘kay.. here’s a photo for the postcard:-)
http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-975_2319736,00. html

What language IS that? I could understand a lot of it, but I’ve never seen it before? Is it a joke?

Afrikaans, isn’t it? There are almost 6 million speakers of Afrikaans in South Africa. Someone who speaks Dutch could probably follow it pretty well. Surely you noticed that the webpage originates in South Africa. I think "Beeld" translates roughly to "image".

You are 100% correct with what you said, Tony.
The ‘durbs.koza’ in my address stands for ‘Durban.co.za’ and, like you said, the Netherlanders and us communicate with no problem at all, on other newsgroups.
The photo was shot here in Kwa Zulu-Natal, the province in which Durban is located.

Pico, I am surprised that you can understand ‘most’ of it. What is you home language?

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message

Pico, I am surprised that you can understand ‘most’ of it. What is you home language?

Frenglish 🙂 And I have seen a lot of Indoeuropean languages over the years but never learned one. Now I will definitely look into Dutch. Fascinating!

On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:20:40 +0200, Dave wrote:

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:07:52 -0400, tony cooper
wrote:

On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:22:54 -0500, "Pico" <pico at idrailogid.ten> wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

‘kay.. here’s a photo for the postcard:-)
http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-975_2319736,00. html

What language IS that? I could understand a lot of it, but I’ve never seen it before? Is it a joke?

Afrikaans, isn’t it? There are almost 6 million speakers of Afrikaans in South Africa. Someone who speaks Dutch could probably follow it pretty well. Surely you noticed that the webpage originates in South Africa. I think "Beeld" translates roughly to "image".

You are 100% correct with what you said, Tony.
The ‘durbs.koza’ in my address stands for ‘Durban.co.za’ and, like you said, the Netherlanders and us communicate with no problem at all, on other newsgroups.
The photo was shot here in Kwa Zulu-Natal, the province in which Durban is located.

Pico, I am surprised that you can understand ‘most’ of it. What is you home language?

Netherlanders are interesting to be around. When they speak Dutch, they sound as if they’ve swallowed something unpleasant and are trying to cough it up. When they switch to English, they have lovely RP accents.

For a sample of the Dutch sound, listen to
http://www.maraisandmiranda.com/images/Goggabbie_sample.mp3 and how Miranda – of Marias and Miranda – sings Johnny Goggabbie’s name.

—
Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida

Dave

Pico, I am surprised that you can understand ‘most’ of it. What is you home language?

Pico

Frenglish 🙂 And I have seen a lot of Indoeuropean languages over the years but never learned one. Now I will definitely look into Dutch. Fascinating!

Tony

Netherlanders are interesting to be around. When they speak Dutch, they sound as if they’ve swallowed something unpleasant and are trying to cough it up. When they switch to English, they have lovely RP accents.

For a sample of the Dutch sound, listen to
and how Miranda – of Marias and Miranda – sings Johnny Goggabbie’s name.

2 links where you can listen to the beatifull pronouncement in the Afrikaans language. One is a song and the other is normal talk.

Die Donkie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTED56zCGww&feature=relat ed

JS1 Sailplane (Documentary in Afrikaans)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6SEKmjPIe4

And don’t miss this one.
Xhosa is one of the black languages in the Durban vicinity. Another is Zulu. The name ‘Click Song’ is being given to it by the Afrikaans speaking people.
Listen to it.

The Click Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHxkiXALQjU

Igqira lendlela nguqo ngqotwane
Igqira lendlela nguqo ngqotwane

Translated
The Witchdoctor, who is a black beatle (repeated twice)
is coming to be in our village (repeated twice)

"Dave" wrote in message

Dave

Pico, I am surprised that you can understand ‘most’ of it. What is you home language?

Pico

Frenglish 🙂 And I have seen a lot of Indoeuropean languages over the years
but never learned one. Now I will definitely look into Dutch. Fascinating!

Tony

Netherlanders are interesting to be around. When they speak Dutch, they sound as if they’ve swallowed something unpleasant and are trying to cough it up. When they switch to English, they have lovely RP accents.

For a sample of the Dutch sound, listen to
and how Miranda – of Marias and Miranda – sings Johnny Goggabbie’s name.

2 links where you can listen to the beatifull pronouncement in the Afrikaans language. One is a song and the other is normal talk.
Die Donkie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTED56zCGww&feature=relat ed
JS1 Sailplane (Documentary in Afrikaans)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6SEKmjPIe4

And don’t miss this one.
Xhosa is one of the black languages in the Durban vicinity. Another is Zulu. The name ‘Click Song’ is being given to it by the Afrikaans speaking people.
Listen to it.

The Click Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHxkiXALQjU

Igqira lendlela nguqo ngqotwane
Igqira lendlela nguqo ngqotwane

Translated
The Witchdoctor, who is a black beatle (repeated twice)
is coming to be in our village (repeated twice)

One time on a job we were shooting with Charlize Theron, we knew she was from SA.
We stayed a week in a remote location no TV or other stuff to do at night so we were drinking and
playing pictionary (a word game) and a word came up for her to do and she said>> I don’t know this word in English
very funny, I said they speak English in SA, I thought she was joking and trying to get an easier word

then she said>>> no really I don’t, my native language is Afrikaans it was hard to believe because she has such command of her American accents then she demonstrated her language and we all laughed
she said she learned it from watching Love Boat re-runs as a child

she also said on that trip that she was going to quit modeling and go for film work
jump 10 years
and she now has an Academy award to show for learning all that American dialect

, "KatWoman" wrote:

One time on a job we were shooting with Charlize Theron, we knew she was from SA.
We stayed a week in a remote location no TV or other stuff to do at night so we were drinking and
playing pictionary (a word game) and a word came up for her to do and she said>> I don’t know this word in English
very funny, I said they speak English in SA, I thought she was joking and trying to get an easier word

then she said>>> no really I don’t, my native language is Afrikaans it was hard to believe because she has such command of her American accents then she demonstrated her language and we all laughed
she said she learned it from watching Love Boat re-runs as a child
she also said on that trip that she was going to quit modeling and go for film work
jump 10 years
and she now has an Academy award to show for learning all that American dialect

Charlize Theron was born and grew up in Benoni on the East Rand; this is east of (but part of) Johannesburg, which is the biggest city in Africa.

Contrary to what you said about her accent, I read once about a Film Director who chose her for a specific roll, simply because he loved the Afrikaans accent.

Pictionary – we have a word game called ‘scrabble’. More or less the same, I assume.

"Dave" wrote in message

, "KatWoman" wrote:

One time on a job we were shooting with Charlize Theron, we knew she was from SA.
We stayed a week in a remote location no TV or other stuff to do at night so we were drinking and
playing pictionary (a word game) and a word came up for her to do and she said>> I don’t know this word in English
very funny, I said they speak English in SA, I thought she was joking and trying to get an easier word

then she said>>> no really I don’t, my native language is Afrikaans it was hard to believe because she has such command of her American accents
then she demonstrated her language and we all laughed
she said she learned it from watching Love Boat re-runs as a child
she also said on that trip that she was going to quit modeling and go for film work
jump 10 years
and she now has an Academy award to show for learning all that American dialect

Charlize Theron was born and grew up in Benoni on the East Rand; this is east of (but part of) Johannesburg, which is the biggest city in Africa.

Contrary to what you said about her accent, I read once about a Film Director who chose her for a specific roll, simply because he loved the Afrikaans accent.

Pictionary – we have a word game called ‘scrabble’. More or less the same, I assume.

pictionary has no board
you get a word and have to draw the clues till people guess it sort of like charades

and Charlize may revert to her natural diction when she chooses but in all appearances on TV in USA and for the entire week we spent she did not have "an accent" to American ears.
She has dropped her Boer accent in daily life in USA, maybe when she goes "home" she picks it up again.
Most of her films she has portrayed Americans.

The way some South Africans speak English almost needs a translator for us Yanks, as do some of the more colorful UK dialects.

I never realized the Dutch and Brits had a war over SA, I just saw some youtube clips and then had to read some history. I guess that part of school I was asleep or not paying attention
The only thing we ever heard about SA was apartheid.

I hope it all turns out better than Zimbabwe for your nation……….

"KatWoman"

I never realized the Dutch and Brits had a war over SA, I just saw some youtube clips and then had to read some history. I guess that part of school I was asleep or not paying attention

Yes, if you study the history of the Afrikaner nation, you will be shocked by facts coming to light what was done, and still gets done, to this small nation. It started when gold was found where Johannesburg got build, and England send their troops to steal the gold from the small nation; they thought it would be easy like taking candy from a baby.
This is the way Britain did it.
http://www.boer.co.za/boerwar/hellkamp.htm

The only thing we ever heard about SA was apartheid.

Yes, isn’t it funny that neighbors first here the bad of each other?

Here is what we know about America.
"This war was brought upon us by the children of the Great Father who came to take our land from us without price."
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/american_originals/industry .html

I guess that part of school I was asleep or not paying attention

Did you pay attention to (or did they never tell you) how the Yanks forced the Indian Tribes into sanctuaries?
Must I tell you what Australia did to the Aborigines?
But… apartheid made headlines.

The alternative to apartheid was this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1924251.stm

I hope it all turns out better than Zimbabwe for your nation……….

(thanks for your well wishes)

*Great Love Stories
Romeo and Juliet
Rhett Butler and Scarlet Ohara
Robert Mugabe and Thabo Mbeki

a few youtube videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRZvtFurvho

"Dave" wrote in message

"KatWoman"

I never realized the Dutch and Brits had a war over SA, I just saw some youtube clips and then had to read some history. I guess that part of school
I was asleep or not paying attention

Yes, if you study the history of the Afrikaner nation, you will be shocked by facts coming to light what was done, and still gets done, to this small nation. It started when gold was found where Johannesburg got build, and England send their troops to steal the gold from the small nation; they thought it would be easy like taking candy from a baby.
This is the way Britain did it.
http://www.boer.co.za/boerwar/hellkamp.htm

I had never known so many Dutchmen (the true pioneers of SA who built the nation) died in concentration camps until very recently when I was researching a news topic (A SA lady legislator proposed shooting criminals on sight, no arrest, no trials, due to the out of control crime)

The only thing we ever heard about SA was apartheid.

Yes, isn’t it funny that neighbors first here the bad of each other?

I also saw the beauty of it from a friend whose Dad lives in Capetown and heard about that wonderful vibrant city
He gave me those dolls with the bands on their necks and never realized they portray an ugly truth, real women who cannot remove them or their necks will break!! I also saw youtube showing how medicine men kill children for magic potions.

Here is what we know about America.
"This war was brought upon us by the children of the Great Father who came to take our land from us without price."
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/american_originals/industry .html

I guess that part of school I was asleep or not paying attention

Did you pay attention to (or did they never tell you) how the Yanks forced the Indian Tribes into sanctuaries?

yes of course
we do learn American History the good the bad the ugly
indigenous fought each other before white men came too
and some fought on side of the white men
the truth is not as black and white as the history texts suggest

Must I tell you what Australia did to the Aborigines?
But… apartheid made headlines.

and I do know of the aborigine treatment in AU
due to a newsgroup I frequent, where a certain Aussie loves to put down the USA
but she cannot worm her way out of what her nation did and still does to their indigenous people

The alternative to apartheid was this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1924251.stm

My city is very anti communist due to Cuban infuences being very dominant we were the one city in USA to SNUB MANDELA outright for his kissing up to Castro
and time is proving how socialist he really is
communism is a failed ideology that the world’s evil men and fools still try to embrace or enforce
it simply does not work on any level, not economics or equality or human rights
most socialist nations end up more totalitarian than monarchies

I hope it all turns out better than Zimbabwe for your nation……….

(thanks for your well wishes)

*Great Love Stories
Romeo and Juliet
Rhett Butler and Scarlet Ohara
Robert Mugabe and Thabo Mbeki

Yes black racism is just ugly as apartheid was
and a nation cannot run by revenge or giving those who are incompetant and under-educated or undeserving the reins
Under the PC world we are in now "tolerance" and multiculturalism we are supposed to accept what is intolerable and incompatible with civilization as we know it and supposed to amke pretned that all cultures are equal Yeah right

and that is why I pray your nation does not follow the Zimbabwe version of "fair and equal" poverty for all

a few youtube videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRZvtFurvho

On Wed, 14 May 2008 14:33:39 -0400, "KatWoman" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

"KatWoman"

I never realized the Dutch and Brits had a war over SA, I just saw some youtube clips and then had to read some history. I guess that part of school
I was asleep or not paying attention

Yes, if you study the history of the Afrikaner nation, you will be shocked by facts coming to light what was done, and still gets done, to this small nation. It started when gold was found where Johannesburg got build, and England send their troops to steal the gold from the small nation; they thought it would be easy like taking candy from a baby.
This is the way Britain did it.
http://www.boer.co.za/boerwar/hellkamp.htm

I had never known so many Dutchmen (the true pioneers of SA who built the nation) died in concentration camps until very recently when I was researching a news topic (A SA lady legislator proposed shooting criminals on sight, no arrest, no trials, due to the out of control crime)

And that is what we want, of course. But the government is trying to unarm us. I completed new forms yesterday to keep my guns, which I bought years ago.

The only thing we ever heard about SA was apartheid.

Yes, isn’t it funny that neighbors first hear the bad of each other?

I also saw the beauty of it from a friend whose Dad lives in Capetown and heard about that wonderful vibrant city
He gave me those dolls with the bands on their necks and never realized they portray an ugly truth, real women who cannot remove them or their necks will break!! I also saw youtube showing how medicine men kill children for magic potions.

a grandmother was arrested recently therefore, and the victim was her granddaughter.

Here is what we know about America.
"This war was brought upon us by the children of the Great Father who came to take our land from us without price."
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/american_originals/industry .html

I guess that part of school I was asleep or not paying attention

Did you pay attention to (or did they never tell you) how the Yanks forced the Indian Tribes into sanctuaries?

yes of course
we do learn American History the good the bad the ugly
indigenous fought each other before white men came too
and some fought on side of the white men
the truth is not as black and white as the history texts suggest

Must I tell you what Australia did to the Aborigines?
But… apartheid made headlines.

and I do know of the aborigine treatment in AU
due to a newsgroup I frequent, where a certain Aussie loves to put down the USA
but she cannot worm her way out of what her nation did and still does to their indigenous people

The alternative to apartheid was this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1924251.stm

My city is very anti communist due to Cuban infuences being very dominant we were the one city in USA to SNUB MANDELA outright for his kissing up to Castro and time is proving how socialist he really is

While in jail, Mandela never rejected, or objected against soft targets like bombs in mall’s, bombs in shopping centers, bombs under the tables in restaurants. But to the world he is kind of a god.

His ex wife..
Only type the word ‘Stompie Sepei’ in a search machine, and see what you’ll find. Start with this:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=100588

communism is a failed ideology that the world’s evil men and fools still try to embrace or enforce
it simply does not work on any level, not economics or equality or human rights
most socialist nations end up more totalitarian than monarchies

I hope it all turns out better than Zimbabwe for your nation……….

(thanks for your well wishes)

*Great Love Stories
Romeo and Juliet
Rhett Butler and Scarlet Ohara
Robert Mugabe and Thabo Mbeki

Yes black racism is just ugly as apartheid was

Apartheid was ugly and bad but (!) many Indians, Coloreds and even some blacks, express themselves as wishing we could have the apartheid days back’!
Your words ‘the truth is not as black and white as the history texts suggest’ stretch further than you think. I must admit that I was chairman for one of the branches of a political party that defended apartheid.

The coin have 2 sides, remember, and this was a small group of white people trying to keep this country part of the 1st world, which it was. Trying to keep up what was built over the years.
(small group when measured against the growing and growing black nation – 10. 11, 12 kids plus. and men many times have more than one wife – the next president(?), Zuma, who was accused of rape and is convicted of fraud) count five wives in his harem – he married the 5th, very young one, recently)

The can not govern a country. We knew it. We created homelands which they governed on their own, and SA had to keep supporting them financially. Right now, Mbeki is one of the choir leaders in begging the rest of the world to write Africa’s debt off as bad debt, and to simply forget about it.

Africa is the proof that they can not govern, and we did not want to become part of the 3rd world of Africa. No black country in Africa is really financially independent. Kenya was the showcase and now they are murdering each other over there. And nobody can argue against what I say, because the prove is there to be seen.

The way they think is proven by Zimbabwe where even lectured people like judges, still vote for Mugabe.

Our municipality name is ‘eThekwini’. I am sure you would like to know the meaning of it. It refers to the testicles of a bull.

http://www.dailynews.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=3532&fAr ticleId=vn20070822090434914C681252

And here, you are able to see what they do to the street names: http://www.dailynews.co.za/?fSectionId=&fArticleId=vn200 80515055127693C143149

and a nation cannot run by revenge or giving those who are incompetant and under-educated or undeserving the reins
Under the PC world we are in now "tolerance" and multiculturalism we are supposed to accept what is intolerable and incompatible with civilization as we know it and supposed to amke pretned that all cultures are equal Yeah right

and that is why I pray your nation does not follow the Zimbabwe version of "fair and equal" poverty for all

a few youtube videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRZvtFurvho

South Africa Cry for Help
Have you looked at this videos?

This will most probably be South Africa’s next president. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKAS6zQW-kM&feature=relat ed

I’dd like you to, even if only for a few days,
take a few seconds and read the headlines here:
http://www.dailynews.co.za/