Drawing a transparent circle?

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Hello,

I have a circular logo that has a ragged edge when I make a transparency. The problem is that the logo has white slats like venetian blinds. So the magic wand goes into the white slats rather than maintaining the circle.

I would like to place a circle with around the logo so that I can then use the magic wand to create a smooth-edged transparency. I noticed that the circle tool results in a ragged-edged circle.

Is there a way to create a smooth-edged transparent circle that I can place around the logo? Then I would create a transparency of the logo plus circle.

Thanks a lot,

Bob
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Hymer wrote:
Hello,

I have a circular logo that has a ragged edge when I make a transparency. The problem is that the logo has white slats like venetian blinds. So the magic wand goes into the white slats rather than maintaining the circle.
I would like to place a circle with around the logo so that I can then use the magic wand to create a smooth-edged transparency. I noticed that the circle tool results in a ragged-edged circle.

Even with antialiasing on? What's your output? Web?
Is there a way to create a smooth-edged transparent circle that I can place around the logo? Then I would create a transparency of the logo plus circle.

Use the Ellipse Shape tool with Fill Opacity set to zero and stroke it in Layer Styles.
Thanks a lot,

Bob

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"edjh" wrote in message
Hymer wrote:
Hello,

I have a circular logo that has a ragged edge when I make a transparency. The problem is that the logo has white slats like venetian blinds. So the magic wand goes into the white slats rather than maintaining the circle.
I would like to place a circle with around the logo so that I can then use the magic wand to create a smooth-edged transparency. I noticed that the circle tool results in a ragged-edged circle.

Even with antialiasing on? What's your output? Web?
Is there a way to create a smooth-edged transparent circle that I can place around the logo? Then I would create a transparency of the logo plus circle.

Use the Ellipse Shape tool with Fill Opacity set to zero and stroke it in Layer Styles.
Thanks a lot,

Bob
So the
magic wand goes into the white slats rather than maintaining the circle.

do you have a tick box for contiguous? then the wand will work the way you want only on the adjacent areas

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#3
I have a circular logo that has a ragged edge when I make a transparency. The problem is that the logo has white slats like venetian blinds. So the magic wand goes into the white slats rather than maintaining the circle.
I would like to place a circle with around the logo so that I can then use the magic wand to create a smooth-edged transparency. I noticed that the circle tool results in a ragged-edged circle.

Even with antialiasing on? What's your output? Web?
Is there a way to create a smooth-edged transparent circle that I can place around the logo? Then I would create a transparency of the logo plus circle.

Use the Ellipse Shape tool with Fill Opacity set to zero and stroke it in Layer Styles.

I am using Photoshop Elements and can not see how to set the fill opacity or how to select the line weight. Do you know how to do that?

Bob
#4
I have a circular logo that has a ragged edge when I make a transparency. The problem is that the logo has white slats like venetian blinds. So the magic wand goes into the white slats rather than maintaining the circle.

I would like to place a circle with around the logo so that I can then use the magic wand to create a smooth-edged transparency. I noticed that the circle tool results in a ragged-edged circle.

Even with antialiasing on? What's your output? Web?
Is there a way to create a smooth-edged transparent circle that I can place around the logo? Then I would create a transparency of the logo plus circle.

Use the Ellipse Shape tool with Fill Opacity set to zero and stroke it in Layer Styles.

I can get anialiasing on and my output is the Web. I have to reduce it down to a very small 20 px and it looks ragged. Also, I am not sure how to "stroke" it.

Bob
#5
Hymer wrote:
I have a circular logo that has a ragged edge when I make a transparency. The problem is that the logo has white slats like venetian blinds. So the magic wand goes into the white slats rather than maintaining the circle.

I would like to place a circle with around the logo so that I can then use the magic wand to create a smooth-edged transparency. I noticed that the circle tool results in a ragged-edged circle.

Even with antialiasing on? What's your output? Web?
Is there a way to create a smooth-edged transparent circle that I can place around the logo? Then I would create a transparency of the logo plus circle.

Use the Ellipse Shape tool with Fill Opacity set to zero and stroke it in Layer Styles.

I can get anialiasing on and my output is the Web. I have to reduce it down to a very small 20 px and it looks ragged. Also, I am not sure how to "stroke" it.
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Any circle is going to jaggie at 20x20. It's those damn square pixels!

But this is a good lesson on logo design. Don't use shapes that don't resize well. Simpler is better.

I worked for a company whose logo created nothing but nightmares in reproduction and resizing because it was just too complicated. It was an "ok" design otherwise but already established when I arrived on the scene.
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- gpsman
#6
I can get anialiasing on and my output is the Web. I have to reduce it down
to a very small 20 px and it looks ragged. Also, I am not sure how to "stroke" it.
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Any circle is going to jaggie at 20x20. It's those damn square pixels!
But this is a good lesson on logo design. Don't use shapes that don't resize well. Simpler is better.

I worked for a company whose logo created nothing but nightmares in reproduction and resizing because it was just too complicated. It was an "ok" design otherwise but already established when I arrived on the scene.
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- gpsman

Yes, I see what you mean. Two of the logo's were from professional societies so I didn't have a choice.

However, I did solve the problem in a Rube Goldberg way. I was able to get a pretty good anti aliased circle in Corel Draw. So I set the whole thing up in Corel Draw and pasted it into Photoshop. Then I was able to use the magic wand and magic eraser to make it a transparency.

Thanks to everyone for helping.

Bob
#7
"Hymer" <[REMOVE].net> wrote in message
I can get anialiasing on and my output is the Web. I have to reduce it down
to a very small 20 px and it looks ragged. Also, I am not sure how to "stroke" it.
-----
Any circle is going to jaggie at 20x20. It's those damn square pixels!
But this is a good lesson on logo design. Don't use shapes that don't resize well. Simpler is better.

I worked for a company whose logo created nothing but nightmares in reproduction and resizing because it was just too complicated. It was an "ok" design otherwise but already established when I arrived on the scene.
-----

- gpsman

Yes, I see what you mean. Two of the logo's were from professional
societies
so I didn't have a choice.

However, I did solve the problem in a Rube Goldberg way. I was able to get
a
pretty good anti aliased circle in Corel Draw. So I set the whole thing up in Corel Draw and pasted it into Photoshop. Then I was able to use the
magic
wand and magic eraser to make it a transparency.

Thanks to everyone for helping.

Bob
Ahh... another CD user. Yeah, I do the same thing myself quite often, using Draw for all or part of a design. Actually, when it comes to things like logotypes, letterhead, business cards, etc., a vector program such as Corel Draw really is the tool to use, IMHO. Such designs are meant to be fairly simple, preferably symbolic, easy to remember, and easy to scale for reproduction in multiple sizes, either in color or greyscale, exactly the kind of thing for which illustration tools are best suited.

Photoshop is certainly an excellent tool, and there are many things I would never even attempt in a vector program that are a snap (or at least achievable ;-) in Photoshop. OTOH, there are things for which Photoshop is simply not the best tool around. I think that logo design probably fits that category.

Cheers,
Scott

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