Why Shutterbug's Mac bias?

Zimphire wrote in news:eat-9B2520.18555131032004
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Eric Gill wrote:

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(ARosenblat) wrote:

Why Shutterbug's Mac bias?

I think it's because Apple pioneered in digital imaging and all or most of the
pros still use it. (I have a PC)

For good reason.

It makes them feel good.

To use a OS that works. :)

Thanks for so ably supporting my point, bud. I see you haven't changed a bit.

Zimphire wrote:

In article <Cd19c.125649$>,
"Douglas MacDonald" wrote:

The macs haven't came in colors in years.

Try again. =)

Well then, no wonder they are losing market share..... ;-)

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Eric Gill wrote:

Zimphire wrote in news:eat-9B2520.18555131032004
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Eric Gill wrote:

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(ARosenblat) wrote:

Why Shutterbug's Mac bias?

I think it's because Apple pioneered in digital imaging and all or most of the
pros still use it. (I have a PC)

For good reason.

It makes them feel good.

To use a OS that works. :)

Thanks for so ably supporting my point, bud. I see you haven't changed a bit.

That was humor.

I use both the Mac and Windows here in my studio.

I DO enjoy working on the G4 better though.

less hassle.

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RicSeyler wrote:

Zimphire wrote:

In article <Cd19c.125649$>,
"Douglas MacDonald" wrote:

The macs haven't came in colors in years.

Try again. =)

Well then, no wonder they are losing market share..... ;-)

They have the same amount of people using them as ever. MORE people are just using computers and becoming Windroids.

Your usually computer user doesn't by Macs. That would be a overkill.

It would be like buying your 17 year old son a new BMW.

He wouldn't know or appreciate the difference.

Not that market share means much. Porsche has less than 1% of the car market.

LOL I was just making a pun... :-)

I've been in typesetting and prepress since
the I286 days. It's just by chance I went with
PC and not MAC. I see the benefits of both.
And I think there is room for both.

Zimphire wrote:

In article <ciXac.1578$>,
RicSeyler wrote:

Zimphire wrote:

In article <Cd19c.125649$>,
"Douglas MacDonald" wrote:

The macs haven't came in colors in years.

Try again. =)

Well then, no wonder they are losing market share..... ;-)

They have the same amount of people using them as ever. MORE people are just using computers and becoming Windroids.

Your usually computer user doesn't by Macs. That would be a overkill.
It would be like buying your 17 year old son a new BMW.
He wouldn't know or appreciate the difference.

Not that market share means much. Porsche has less than 1% of the car market.

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Zimphire wrote:

It would be like buying your 17 year old son a new BMW.
He wouldn't know or appreciate the difference.

Sure he would: he'd be going faster when he wrecked it.

nospam wrote:

Yes it is true. But, on the other hand there are so few Mac users that even if everyone of them ways to steal Photoshop it wouldn't hurt Adobe's bottom line. 5% or less market share makes it kind of hard to cause any real damage.

But Mac users constitute much more than 5% of Adobe's customers. For the most recent quarter (2004Q1), Mac users accounted for 29% of Adobe's total revenues. Digital Imaging and Video, of which Photoshop is a part, accounted for 27% of total revenues. I can't find breakouts of revenues and earnings for Photoshop alone, but I suspect that it constitutes a big chunk of the Digital Imaging and Video group; and considering how it dominates its product category, Photoshop probably provides a disproportionate share of Adobe's bottom-line profits.

Only a guess, but it wouldn't surprise me if Mac Photoshop sales accounted for close to half of Photoshop revenues and 5% of Adobe's earnings.

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Eric Gill wrote:

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Eric Gill wrote:

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(ARosenblat) wrote:

Why Shutterbug's Mac bias?

I think it's because Apple pioneered in digital imaging and all or most of the
pros still use it. (I have a PC)

For good reason.

It makes them feel good.

To use a OS that works. :)

Thanks for so ably supporting my point, bud. I see you haven't changed a bit.

That was humor.

So was my original comment, though it's often true.

I use both the Mac and Windows here in my studio.

I DO enjoy working on the G4 better though.

less hassle.

I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 01:35:33 GMT, Eric Gill
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Thanks for so ably supporting my point, bud. I see you haven't changed a bit.

Which is why I keep him killfiltered. It keeps my blood pressure down :)

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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 01:35:33 GMT, Eric Gill
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Thanks for so ably supporting my point, bud. I see you haven't changed a bit.

Which is why I keep him killfiltered. It keeps my blood pressure down :)

Ah, I'm just needling him. Getting annoyed would require taking him seriously.

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Ah, I'm just needling him. Getting annoyed would require taking him seriously.

Good point.

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I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

Not in my case. It's windows that gives me the most problems.

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Eric Gill wrote:

I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

Not in my case. It's windows that gives me the most problems.

Ignorance and bias have their problems, yes.

I can't complain, though. Fixing problems for Mac shops pays for the odd vacation here and there.

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Eric Gill wrote:

I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

Not in my case. It's windows that gives me the most problems.

Ignorance and bias have their problems, yes.

AHah I love how Windows users hate admitting it has problems.

Nothing to do with ignorance or bias.

Well I take that back. I am biased. It wasn't originally there though. That bias was formed in the many years I have had to run Windows. Only for it to puke and die.

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I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

It's not the apps. It's the OS.

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In article , Eric Gill
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I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

It's not the apps. It's the OS.

That explains why I have similar issues with the apps under both Windows and OSX.

Well, no, it doesn't.

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Eric Gill wrote:

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Eric Gill wrote:

I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

Not in my case. It's windows that gives me the most problems.

Ignorance and bias have their problems, yes.

AHah I love how Windows users hate admitting it has problems.

Ah, Zim. Snipping the part of my message that notes I spend a lot of time fixing problems for Mac shops won't make that fact go away.

Nothing to do with ignorance or bias.

Right. That's why you had to make something up.

That was just stupid, bud. Out and out lying is one thing, but believing you can get away with it because of an unmarked snip is incredibly dumb.

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Eric Gill wrote:

Steve Moody wrote in
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In article , Eric Gill
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I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

It's not the apps. It's the OS.

That explains why I have similar issues with the apps under both Windows and OSX.

Well, no, it doesn't.

Oh, yes, I have similar issues with the same programs. Don't get me wrong.

But I have issues in Windows, that I just don't have in OS X.

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Eric Gill wrote:

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Eric Gill wrote:

Zimphire wrote in news:eat-CD2834.11344002042004
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Eric Gill wrote:

I don't see it. The majority of the hassle in publishing apps are the apps themselves.

Not in my case. It's windows that gives me the most problems.

Ignorance and bias have their problems, yes.

AHah I love how Windows users hate admitting it has problems.

Ah, Zim. Snipping the part of my message that notes I spend a lot of time fixing problems for Mac shops won't make that fact go away.

I never claimed Macs never needed fixed. I snipped it because it was a straw-man arguement.
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Right. That's why you had to make something up.

What did I make up?

That was just stupid, bud. Out and out lying is one thing, but believing you can get away with it because of an unmarked snip is incredibly dumb.

LOL!! Again, how am I lying?

Stop being such a Windroid.

There is a REASON Windows has a bad rep. It didn't come from people lying.

nospam wrote:

But, on the other hand there are so few Mac users that even if everyone of them ways to steal Photoshop it wouldn't hurt Adobe's bottom line. 5% or less market share makes it kind of hard to cause any real damage.

<http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1572017,00.asp>

In article <1gcn9yo.17w7b56154d03kN%>,
(Neill Massello) wrote:

nospam wrote:

But, on the other hand there are so few Mac users that even if everyone of them ways to steal Photoshop it wouldn't hurt Adobe's bottom line. 5% or less market share makes it kind of hard to cause any real damage.

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

"Zimphire" wrote in message

In article <1gcn9yo.17w7b56154d03kN%>,
(Neill Massello) wrote:

nospam wrote:

But, on the other hand there are so few Mac users that even if

everyone of

them ways to steal Photoshop it wouldn't hurt Adobe's bottom line. 5%

or

less market share makes it kind of hard to cause any real damage.

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

Where did you get the numbers from?

Stephan

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:06:21 GMT, "Stephan"
wrote:

"Zimphire" wrote in message

In article <1gcn9yo.17w7b56154d03kN%>,
(Neill Massello) wrote:

nospam wrote:

But, on the other hand there are so few Mac users that even if

everyone of

them ways to steal Photoshop it wouldn't hurt Adobe's bottom line. 5%

or

less market share makes it kind of hard to cause any real damage.

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

Where did you get the numbers from?

Stephan

My guess is heteromorphic anal extraction.

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"Zimphire" wrote in message

In article <1gcn9yo.17w7b56154d03kN%>,
(Neill Massello) wrote:

nospam wrote:

But, on the other hand there are so few Mac users that even if

everyone of

them ways to steal Photoshop it wouldn't hurt Adobe's bottom line. 5%

or

less market share makes it kind of hard to cause any real damage.

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

Where did you get the numbers from?

His overactive imagination. Adobe says otherwise.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1572017,00.asp

Eric Gill wrote:

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

Where did you get the numbers from?

His overactive imagination. Adobe says otherwise.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1572017,00.asp

Be careful with your own overactive imagination! The only thing I see (from a quick scan of the article) is "When you look at our overall revenue, or percentage of revenue, we get somewhere between 22% and 25% of our business from Macintosh customers or software that runs on the Mac". That is the OVERALL business, including Premiere and Photoshop Album (not available on the Mac) not just Photoshop. In other words: Photoshop could still be 50%. I'm not saying it is, but the URL doesn't prove it isn't either.

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Be careful with your own overactive imagination! The only thing I see (from a quick scan of the article) is "When you look at our overall revenue, or percentage of revenue, we get somewhere between 22% and 25% of our business from Macintosh customers or software that runs on the Mac". That is the OVERALL business, including Premiere and Photoshop Album (not available on the Mac) not just Photoshop. In other words: Photoshop could still be 50%. I'm not saying it is, but the URL doesn't prove it isn't either.

If anybody would ping Chris Cox, I'm sure he knows. I can't imagine its being some kind of big trade secret.

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(Johan W. Elzenga) wrote in
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Eric Gill wrote:

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

Where did you get the numbers from?

His overactive imagination. Adobe says otherwise.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1572017,00.asp

Be careful with your own overactive imagination!

I am. There is no indication Zimphire is doing anything but pulling desperate slander from his nether regions.

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Eric Gill wrote:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1572017,00.asp

Er.. he was talking about Adobe OVER ALL. Not just Photoshop.

*rolleyes*

In article <1gcpjqy.oav08cedf2fgN%>,
(Johan W. Elzenga) wrote:

Eric Gill wrote:

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

Where did you get the numbers from?

His overactive imagination. Adobe says otherwise.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1572017,00.asp

Be careful with your own overactive imagination! The only thing I see (from a quick scan of the article) is "When you look at our overall revenue, or percentage of revenue, we get somewhere between 22% and 25% of our business from Macintosh customers or software that runs on the Mac". That is the OVERALL business, including Premiere and Photoshop Album (not available on the Mac) not just Photoshop. In other words: Photoshop could still be 50%. I'm not saying it is, but the URL doesn't prove it isn't either.

It's CLOSE to 50%

In article ,
Eric Gill wrote:

(Johan W. Elzenga) wrote in
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Eric Gill wrote:

Not to mention Apple has more than a 5% share in Photoshop. It's just about 50/50

There are just more PC users stealing it. Most shops that do buy it use Macs.

Where did you get the numbers from?

His overactive imagination. Adobe says otherwise.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1572017,00.asp

Be careful with your own overactive imagination!

I am. There is no indication Zimphire is doing anything but pulling desperate slander from his nether regions.

Slander? Do you even know what slander means? I don't think you do.