converting a .doc into a jpg at 300dpi

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Feb 27, 2005
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Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality. Someone told me to create a new page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???

This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

Many thanks in advance,
Leila

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RSD99
Feb 28, 2005
About the only way I know of is to use a *printer driver* that will write a TIFF file … at any chosen resolution … and print the document to a (TIFF) or … if you must … a JPEG file.

Incidentally … JPG or JPEG is **not** a good format for anything that has sharp edges … such as text. It was specifically designed for photographic images (JPEG is actually an acronym for the ‘Joint Photographic Experts Group,’ an industry technical group), and can do several *very not nice* things to this kind of image. I would suggest that you use either TIF or PNG as the format of choice.

One suitable starting point would be
http://www.informatik.com/tiffwork.html

"Leila" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality. Someone told me to create a new page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???
This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

Many thanks in advance,
Leila
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RSD99
Feb 28, 2005
Oh … FWIW: if your intended destination is actually a printing press … you might find that the text will not look "sharp" until you boost the resolution to at least 1200 dpi. The resolution usually used for setting text is normally from roughly 2400 – 2540 – 3200 dpi, and sometimes even higher.

"RSD99" wrote in message
About the only way I know of is to use a *printer driver* that will write
a
TIFF file … at any chosen resolution … and print the document to a (TIFF) or … if you must … a JPEG file.

Incidentally … JPG or JPEG is **not** a good format for anything that
has
sharp edges … such as text. It was specifically designed for
photographic
images (JPEG is actually an acronym for the ‘Joint Photographic Experts Group,’ an industry technical group), and can do several *very not nice* things to this kind of image. I would suggest that you use either TIF or PNG as the format of choice.

One suitable starting point would be
http://www.informatik.com/tiffwork.html

"Leila" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality. Someone told me to create a new page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???
This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

Many thanks in advance,
Leila

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edjh
Feb 28, 2005
Leila wrote:
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality. Someone told me to create a new page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???
This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

Many thanks in advance,
Leila
I’m guessing that WordArt graphics are low-resolution, probably 72 ppi. Why would you be bringing something from Word into Photoshop? And why are you bringing to into a 300 ppi document? What kind of document is it? What’s your ultimate output?


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mitch
Feb 28, 2005
Liela,

The method you’ve got is good, the problem is resolution. Copying from the document is probably taking the wordart as an raster image at the size you see when you view the page at 100% in Word with resolution of your screen (probably 72 or 96 dpi).

Try this:
In Word, go to page setup and make the page a custom size the largest you are able. On mine this was 55cm or so.
Set view to "whole page" or smaller.
Select all your wordart and group them (right-click context menu). Hold the shift key down and drag the transform handles to get the largest size that you can – even if some of it goes off the page. Now copy this and put in PS as you were advised.
If you get an error, go back and make it a little smaller and try again. You should be able to get a respectable image for a standard page around 300dpi.

Note this only copies the wordart, not regular text.

Leila wrote:
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality. Someone told me to create a new page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???
This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

Many thanks in advance,
Leila
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allenleila
Feb 28, 2005
"RSD99" …
Oh … FWIW: if your intended destination is actually a printing press … you might find that the text will not look "sharp" until you boost the resolution to at least 1200 dpi. The resolution usually used for setting text is normally from roughly 2400 – 2540 – 3200 dpi, and sometimes even higher.

"RSD99" wrote in message
About the only way I know of is to use a *printer driver* that will write
a
TIFF file … at any chosen resolution … and print the document to a (TIFF) or … if you must … a JPEG file.

Incidentally … JPG or JPEG is **not** a good format for anything that
has
sharp edges … such as text. It was specifically designed for
photographic
images (JPEG is actually an acronym for the ‘Joint Photographic Experts Group,’ an industry technical group), and can do several *very not nice* things to this kind of image. I would suggest that you use either TIF or PNG as the format of choice.

One suitable starting point would be
http://www.informatik.com/tiffwork.html

"Leila" wrote in message
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality. Someone told me to create a new page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???
This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

Many thanks in advance,
Leila

RSD99,

Many thanks for your reply!

I didn’t realise that there was so much to take into consideration when transferring images from one package to another.

First things first: I am using PS 6.

Second, I want to PRINT out the images and keep the quality looking as I see it on screen – SMOOTH.

The reason I want to do this is simple. I want to create a number of transfers/decals for some corgi models that I am restoring. I have measured the size of the transfers I want to create, and used MS Word’s ruler to create WordArt images in exactly the same size. The reason I used WordArt is because it allows you to import nonstandard fonts and create some nice curved word shapes which I want to use for the decals. BTW: I have looked into doing this in PS and PSP and it just seems quite alot more complicated, not to mention the fact that I am a complete novice at graphics and I understand you cannot create the images I want using the non standard fonts.

So, I have created this word document, however I do not have a good enough printer at home to print the the document.

Someone said I should save the document as a jpg so i could copy it onto a cd and take it to work to print.

This is where the problem starts. I have tried just copying and pasting the document into PS. A box pops up at first asking what size and resolution and I inserted the size of an A4 page (21×29.5) and 300dpi. Apart from the images rendering ALOT smaller than my specification, it still comes out looking blocky. I will try your suggestions and get back to you.

Hope it works!

Leila
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Tacit
Feb 28, 2005
In Leila wrote:
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality.

Why do you want the Word file as a JPEG? What is your goal? Are you trying to put it on a Web page? Are you trying to print it?

You need to first understand that you can never make a JPEG without losing quality. The purpose of a JPEG is to make a file smaller on disk. JPEG does this by degrading the quality of the image. All JPEG images are degraded. JPEG is only useful for situations where file size is important but image quality is not important, such as the Web. Any image where you need the image to be high quality should not be a JPEG; use a different image format instead, like TIFF.

However, if you are trying to make a file you can print, PDF is your best bet.

Someone told me to create a new
page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???

Because when you copy the WordArt to the clipboard, it becomes 72 pixels per inch. When you paste it into a 300 pixel per inch file, it shrinks.

This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

You can never make a JPEG without losing quality. The purpose of JPEG is to lose quality.

You can make it into a graphic without losing quality or size by saving it as a PDF or PostScript file, then making your graphic from the PDF or PostScript. If you explain what your goal is and what you plan to do with the graphic, we can give you detailed, step by step instructions.
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Tacit
Feb 28, 2005
In Leila wrote:
Someone said I should save the document as a jpg so i could copy it onto a cd and take it to work to print.

Mistake #1. Converting to JPEG will degrade the quality. Whoever told you to do that just said "JPEG" because JPEG is the only image format he remembers. Use TIFF.

This is where the problem starts. I have tried just copying and pasting the document into PS.

Mistake #2. Copying to the Clipboard from Word makes the WordArt change to 72 pixels per inch. Word is not capable of copying high-quality WordArt to the clipboard; it’s a fundamental limitation of the program.

Do you have a copy of Adobe Acrobat (NOT Acrobat Reader)? If so, problem solved–use it to make a PDF of the Word file.
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iehsmith
Feb 28, 2005
On 2/28/05 11:17 AM, Tacit uttered:

Do you have a copy of Adobe Acrobat (NOT Acrobat Reader)? If so, problem solved–use it to make a PDF of the Word file.

Tacit,

I don’t know Word or WordArt, but does it allow her to save as EPS or print to postscript file, then open that in Photoshop? (I’m guessing Acrobat isn’t an option here)

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Hecate
Mar 1, 2005
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 02:11:06 GMT, edjh wrote:

Leila wrote:
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality. Someone told me to create a new page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???
This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

Many thanks in advance,
Leila
I’m guessing that WordArt graphics are low-resolution, probably 72 ppi. Why would you be bringing something from Word into Photoshop? And why are you bringing to into a 300 ppi document? What kind of document is it? What’s your ultimate output?

IIRC, WordArt graphics are wmf vectors.



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allenleila
Mar 1, 2005
Tacit …
In Leila wrote:
Hi,

I have a frustrating problem. I have created a document using WordArt (I have Word 97) and some free fonts I found on the net. Some of these fonts were true type others not. I now want to convert this file to a jpg without losing quality.

Why do you want the Word file as a JPEG? What is your goal? Are you trying to put it on a Web page? Are you trying to print it?
You need to first understand that you can never make a JPEG without losing quality. The purpose of a JPEG is to make a file smaller on disk. JPEG does this by degrading the quality of the image. All JPEG images are degraded. JPEG is only useful for situations where file size is important but image quality is not important, such as the Web. Any image where you need the image to be high quality should not be a JPEG; use a different image format instead, like TIFF.

However, if you are trying to make a file you can print, PDF is your best bet.

Someone told me to create a new
page in PS at 300dpi and copy and paste the word document into that. However the document is 10 times smaller when I do this. WHY???

Because when you copy the WordArt to the clipboard, it becomes 72 pixels per inch. When you paste it into a 300 pixel per inch file, it shrinks.
This has been bothering me for me and I am at my wits end. Can anybody please advise a way of converting this WordArt document into a jpg without losing quality or size???

You can never make a JPEG without losing quality. The purpose of JPEG is to lose quality.

You can make it into a graphic without losing quality or size by saving it as a PDF or PostScript file, then making your graphic from the PDF or PostScript. If you explain what your goal is and what you plan to do with the graphic, we can give you detailed, step by step instructions.

Hi,

I see that my cardinal sin was trying to convert to jpg! I do not have Adobe Acrobat but have just checked Adobe’s website and see they offer a Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional tryout. Will this do the job? So, to get things straight, when saving in word, I should save as a pdf file?? Will this preserve the non standard fonts within my Word document? One thing I am concerned about is that when I save my word file and transport the WORD file to another machine, the fonts are not preserved (even if I set word to save True Type fonts). This is obviously no good, and the reason I decided to tried to save as an image, because that atleast preserves the look of the file.
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tacitr
Mar 1, 2005
In article ,
(Leila) wrote:

I see that my cardinal sin was trying to convert to jpg! I do not have Adobe Acrobat but have just checked Adobe’s website and see they offer a Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional tryout. Will this do the job?

It should, yes.

So, to get things straight, when saving in word, I should save as a pdf file?? Will this preserve the non standard fonts within my Word document?

Yes. That is the purpose of PDF.

The PDF format was created as a way of taking a file from any program and making a sealed, perfectly-preserved version of that file, with all graphics and all fonts and everything exactly as it should be, that can be moved from computer to computer and printed precisely as it was in the original–even if the other computer does not have the fonts and does not have the right software. It’s meant for precisely what you are doing.


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allenleila
Mar 7, 2005
Tacit!

THANK YOU ever so much for your help! It works! One note of warning though… Adobe cannot open Word 97 documents. So I spent all my time transferring my fonts to a machine which had MS Office 2003 and I was able to convert my document to a pdf with no trouble whatsoever. And the print quality is fabulous.

You have been a tremendous help – thanks.

Also, thanks to everyone else for their suggestions.

Leila

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