HELP: Why is photoshop so hard to use!

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

-Luke

(Luke Hall) wrote in news:7119be4d.0411161412.3f83d899
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After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.
-Luke

Photshop has over 500 commands, you cannot learn this program in 20 minutes, it takes time but there is almost nothing that cannot be achieved with this application. It is awesome in it's capability.

Video trainning helps a lot if your in a huury
http://www.totaltraining.com/

There are thousands of online tutorials, serch google.

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Luke Hall wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.
-Luke

Hang in there Luke. Keep your hands out of your hair.

I also found PS7 to be extremely difficult to use but after reading some online tutorials (Google) and buying a book I really like the program. It is an amazing photo program and it just takes some time to get used to it.

Luke don't turn to the dark side. <g>

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JD..

"Luke Hall" wrote in message

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. [...]

Luke, you are going through what I call a Learning Tantrum, and it's not a bad thing. Once you get the hang of just a few features of Photoshop you are going to be very happy, fast.

Here's a very good start (IMHO) http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/start/start.htm

"jjs" wrote in message

Here's a very good start (IMHO)
http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/start/start.htm

I TAKE IT BACK. That's the wrong URL and after searching the site, I cannot recommend it for a brand new user. Jumping right into channels, not reviewing the overall menu/command feature interface _first_ is not a good way to go, and the tutorial has no good overview that says, in effect, "Here are the seven steps to basic pictures in most cases." Sorry about that!

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Photoshop is not hard to use;professional-level image editing is hard to do.

When you were using Photodraw, you were using Fisher-Price's "Baby's First Tool Kit." Now you are using a real tool kit, and you need to learn how it works.

You draw a rectangle with the rectangle tool. You move it with the move tool.

A layer is like a clear sheet of glass that you paint on. You can make as many layers as you want. You can paint different things on each layer. You can move the layers around, turn them off, turn them on, change what order they are stacked in, all without ruining the things on the other layers.

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On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

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Hecate - The Real One

veni, vidi, reliqui

On 11/16/04 10:04 PM, in article ,
"Hecate" wrote:

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

The first step to learning Photoshop is learning how to make a selection. Once you learn all the ways to make a selection, all that is left to do is decide how to manipulate the selection.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
http://www.wizardofdraws.com
http://www.cartoonclipart.com

You might want to go to your local book store and pick up the latest copy of Photoshop User (http://www.photoshopuser.com/). Other books exist too, but Photoshop User gives step-by-step tutorials in every issue.

Learning Photoshop is a stairstep procedure. You learn a bit, practice what you've learned, learn some more, practice that, learn some more, etc. I'm sure many Photoshop users are bald! What you might try doing is seeing if there are any local SIGs in your area that deal with Photoshop. You might be able to find this out by visiting a local college's graphics program.

Peadge :-)

"Luke Hall" wrote in message

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.
-Luke

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.
-Luke

Why would you use Photoshop for drawing? Seem Ilustrator would server the pupose better. Photoshop is so powerful in image manipulation not so good if you want a drawing program.

Wizard of Draws ...

On 11/16/04 10:04 PM, in article ,
"Hecate" wrote:

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

The first step to learning Photoshop is learning how to make a selection. Once you learn all the ways to make a selection, all that is left to do is decide how to manipulate the selection.

Thanks for all your replys. I have started with my training with a fantastic free course from about.com It's gonna take a while but i will get there in the end. Looking arounfd the net there is so much out there for photoshop. Photodraw really is a fisher-price kids tool compared to this.

The Video training kits look mighty expensive since i have just forked out alot just to buy photoshop, but they do look good. I think i'll get myself a book from the library too!

Wizard of Draws wrote:

On 11/16/04 10:04 PM, in article ,
"Hecate" wrote:

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

The first step to learning Photoshop is learning how to make a selection. Once you learn all the ways to make a selection, all that is left to do is decide how to manipulate the selection.

Depending on what you use PS for, learning to make selections may or may not be the first step. Making *good* selections can be very challenging for a beginner, and in many cases editing photographs successfully do not require making selections.

"Donald Link" wrote in message

Why would you use Photoshop for drawing? Seem Ilustrator would server the pupose better.

Does Illustrator have enough raster features to really draw/paint with? I think not.

Does Illustrator have enough raster features to really draw/paint with? I think not.

I think the problem here is language.

In the professional computer graphics community, the word "draw" has a specific meaning that is diffeent from the meaning of "creating an image on a piece of paper." When you're talking about computer graphics, "drawing" means "creating an image using vector tools," and "painting" means "creating a raster image."
You paint in Photoshop, draw in Illustrator.

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"Hecate" wrote:

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

The first step to learning Photoshop is learning how to make a selection. Once you learn all the ways to make a selection, all that is left to do is decide how to manipulate the selection.

Thanks for all your replys. I have started with my training with a fantastic free course from about.com It's gonna take a while but i will get there in the end. Looking arounfd the net there is so much out there for photoshop. Photodraw really is a fisher-price kids tool compared to this.

The Video training kits look mighty expensive since i have just forked out alot just to buy photoshop, but they do look good. I think i'll get myself a book from the library too!

Yes, the training DVD's, etc. are expensive, and depending on how YOU learn, might not be worth the extra $, at least not yet. Pick up a copy of Adobe Photoshop Classroom in a Book, and work through the exercises. Once done, let it sit for a bit, then work through them again. With the other advice from this NG, that will give you a good foundation, and you can build for the rest of your life on it. After that foundation is complete, you can then decide which of the myriad books, training courses out there, will fit your needs.

Hunt

Shh Luke - a little secret, don't let anyone else know...

The secret to creative learning (IMHO the kind required in PSCS) is: make it fun.

That doesn't mean the same as "make it easy".

Have fun learning this stuff - sure tutorials help and as a registered owner of PSCS you have user access to stuff on the adobe site too.

I think I've had PSCS for about 4 or 5 months now - it is great! First version, first one for me too.

The information overload is natural but once you are through that you are in a select bunch of image processing people that know what they are doing (I hope!)

If you've got the pace, stamina. grit and positive attitude it makes it all a lot easier.

Now - shh! don't tell anyone

Aerticus

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On 11/16/04 10:04 PM, in article
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"Hecate" wrote:

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

The first step to learning Photoshop is learning how to make a selection. Once you learn all the ways to make a selection, all that is left to do is
decide how to manipulate the selection.

Thanks for all your replys. I have started with my training with a fantastic free course from about.com It's gonna take a while but i will get there in the end. Looking arounfd the net there is so much out there for photoshop. Photodraw really is a fisher-price kids tool compared to this.

The Video training kits look mighty expensive since i have just forked out alot just to buy photoshop, but they do look good. I think i'll get myself a book from the library too!

"Tacit" wrote in message

You paint in Photoshop, draw in Illustrator.

Good point. I paint.

Dont Give up man. Just Use Google to search for Photoshop tutorials once you learn the layout and the tools you will be Forever happy. dont Give up just keep messing with it You Can Do it..

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On 17 Nov 2004 05:14:40 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

The Video training kits look mighty expensive since i have just forked out alot just to buy photoshop, but they do look good. I think i'll get myself a book from the library too!

Books are good. See if the library has a copy of Photoshop Artistry by Haynes and Crumpler. Nicely laid out, individual "lessons" with examples, and mostly well-written.

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veni, vidi, reliqui

What a nice , positive, encouraging thread. I thought this stuff disappeared here a long time ago! Well done!!

"Aerticus" wrote in message

Shh Luke - a little secret, don't let anyone else know...
The secret to creative learning (IMHO the kind required in PSCS) is: make

it

fun.

That doesn't mean the same as "make it easy".

Have fun learning this stuff - sure tutorials help and as a registered

owner

of PSCS you have user access to stuff on the adobe site too.
I think I've had PSCS for about 4 or 5 months now - it is great! First version, first one for me too.

The information overload is natural but once you are through that you are

in

a select bunch of image processing people that know what they are doing (I hope!)

If you've got the pace, stamina. grit and positive attitude it makes it

all

a lot easier.

Now - shh! don't tell anyone

Aerticus

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On 11/16/04 10:04 PM, in article
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"Hecate" wrote:

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And

i

dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using

photodraw

was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get

me

started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

The first step to learning Photoshop is learning how to make a

selection.

Once you learn all the ways to make a selection, all that is left to do is
decide how to manipulate the selection.

Thanks for all your replys. I have started with my training with a fantastic free course from about.com It's gonna take a while but i will get there in the end. Looking arounfd the net there is so much out there for photoshop. Photodraw really is a fisher-price kids tool compared to this.

The Video training kits look mighty expensive since i have just forked out alot just to buy photoshop, but they do look good. I think i'll get myself a book from the library too!

aw shucks

Aerticeus

"Scruff" wrote in message

What a nice , positive, encouraging thread. I thought this stuff disappeared
here a long time ago! Well done!!

Hunt wrote:

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On 11/16/04 10:04 PM, in article

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"Hecate" wrote:

On 16 Nov 2004 14:12:26 -0800, (Luke Hall) wrote:

After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

I can't believe how hard this program is to use. I cant get anything done. infact i cant even draw a rectangle and then move it about the screen without a bloody 'you can not do that' message appearing. And i dont have a clue what all these layers and paths are. Using photodraw was so easy, i didnt even need to use the manual.

Your clue is in the first sentence - "something more professional". PS is aimed at the professional market. You can use it for ten years and still be barely half way to understanding everything you can do it.

Is there any fantastic recomended tutorials on the web that can get me started on Photoshop. I am ripping my hair out at the moment.

Try www.myjanee.com for a start. But, you really need to buy books.

The first step to learning Photoshop is learning how to make a selection. Once you learn all the ways to make a selection, all that is left to do is decide how to manipulate the selection.

Thanks for all your replys. I have started with my training with a fantastic free course from about.com It's gonna take a while but i will get there in the end. Looking arounfd the net there is so much out there for photoshop. Photodraw really is a fisher-price kids tool compared to this.

The Video training kits look mighty expensive since i have just forked out alot just to buy photoshop, but they do look good. I think i'll get myself a book from the library too!

Yes, the training DVD's, etc. are expensive, and depending on how YOU learn, might not be worth the extra $, at least not yet. Pick up a copy of Adobe Photoshop Classroom in a Book, and work through the exercises. Once done, let it sit for a bit, then work through them again. With the other advice from this NG, that will give you a good foundation, and you can build for the rest of your life on it. After that foundation is complete, you can then decide which of the myriad books, training courses out there, will fit your needs.
Hunt

IMHO, Hunt's advice is right on target.
Classroom in a book is produced by the Adobe Staff.
The included CD Tutorial leads you by the hand, step-by-step, through a series of lessons of increasing complexity. When you are finished the lessons you will feel pretty confident and will be able to do a lot of things with your images. Then you can think about other books and tutorials. There is no substitute for a solid foundation and you can get it from Classroom in a Book.
Bob Williams

You guys are so encouraging, Thanks!

I got 'Photoshop 6 for dummies' it was the newest book they had on photoshop because all the version 7 & CS books were out on loan.

the first chapter is called 'What the . . . ? Aagh, Help Me!' which is exactly how I felt when I started this thread.

The writer Deke McClelland is really funny and is making the whole learning process fun! 400 pages to go!

"Scruff" ...

What a nice , positive, encouraging thread. I thought this stuff disappeared here a long time ago! Well done!!

(Luke Hall) wrote in news:7119be4d.0411161412.3f83d899
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After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

First off take a big breath, next take another big breath and relax.

What everyone is saying about books and tutorials are right on. And you might consider taking classes or seminars.

I self-trained on PS 3 and then worked up through books and classes until I feel like I can at least follow instructions in a book and understand the directions.

My PS CS came with a training CD or DVD. Those are pretty helpful.

FYI I also have a copy of Illustrator - can NOT figure that out at all. It makes no sense and I haven't a clue why I need it! It came with the Suite. :-)

lara

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FYI I also have a copy of Illustrator - can NOT figure that out at all. It makes no sense and I haven't a clue why I need it! It came with the Suite. :-)

lara

For starters, you can set text in Illustrator and do things with it that aren't easily accomplished in Photoshop. Nearly any text that I put on my cartoons is set in Illustrator.

Custom shapes and patterns that would take too long to create in Photoshop, I do in Illustrator.

Knockouts in my cartoons are done in Illustrator.

After I've had too much caffeine and my lines aren't just right, smoothing and straightening them is done in Illustrator.

Using both Photoshop and Illustrator, I can take a 100x100 pixel cartoon of mine and make a high-res version that will work as a t-shirt design, billboard, or poster or whatever and you'd never know it started out 1" tall.

Illustrator is Photoshop's best friend and you will do yourself a huge favor by learning to integrate the two.
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Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
http://www.wizardofdraws.com
http://www.cartoonclipart.com

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After using MS Photodraw for the past 4 years, i have decided to upgrade my software for something more professional. So i purchased Photoshop.

First off take a big breath, next take another big breath and relax.
What everyone is saying about books and tutorials are right on. And you might consider taking classes or seminars.

I self-trained on PS 3 and then worked up through books and classes until I feel like I can at least follow instructions in a book and understand the directions.

My PS CS came with a training CD or DVD. Those are pretty helpful.
FYI I also have a copy of Illustrator - can NOT figure that out at all. It makes no sense and I haven't a clue why I need it! It came with the Suite. :-)

lara

Illistrator is the application to use for vector graphics, it is simply the best availabe and its awesome what can be achieved with it. but as you have discovered its a huge learning curve as every aspect of vector graphics can be minutly controlled. It will take you a considerable amount of time to learn illustrator and honestly it can wait till until you have a good command of Photoshop unless you specificaly want to produce vector graphic illustrations. There are one or two things photoshop just can not do but illustrator can. Example duplicate a lampost with perspective to the vanishing point in a street scene but illuatrator can so you can produce your perspective lamposts and bring them into your street scene in photoshop etc.

Basicaly Photoshop is for raster images ie pixels and it has a little bit of vector stuff while illustrator is mainly for vector graphics with a little bit of raster capability imaging. Between the two there is nothing you can not do, your only limited buy your imagination.

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Youth is wasted on the young!

Illustrator is Photoshop's best friend and you will do yourself a huge favor by learning to integrate the two.

I would but right now I have no real reason to do so. The kind of photography I do doesn't need Illustrator.

And before I learn that, I have to figure out GoLive so I can get my web page up and running!

lara :-)

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On 11/22/04 4:16 PM, in article
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Illustrator is Photoshop's best friend and you will do yourself a huge favor by learning to integrate the two.

I would but right now I have no real reason to do so. The kind of photography I do doesn't need Illustrator.

And before I learn that, I have to figure out GoLive so I can get my web page up and running!

lara :-)

Beautiful work, BTW.

Although I'd recommend Dreamweaver instead of GoLive if you have the option, have fun with the site.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
http://www.wizardofdraws.com
http://www.cartoonclipart.com

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Thanks Jeff! I already have GoLive - part of that CS suite thing - so that is why I have to learn to use that.

You drew ALL those clip arts? Amazing. I couldn't draw a squiggle if I needed to!

lara

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photographer

lara hartley wrote:

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You drew ALL those clip arts? Amazing. I couldn't draw a squiggle if I needed to!

lara

photographer € writer € editor
My Gallery
http://tinyurl.com/2hrc7

lara..

Your work looks very good.

You might consider a little different way to copyright your work but using the more standard method: © 2004 your name.

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JD..

On 11/22/04 9:28 PM, in article
, "lara hartley"
wrote:

You drew ALL those clip arts? Amazing. I couldn't draw a squiggle if I needed to!

lara

Yes I did thank you. Cute squiggles come much easier if you've been doing it for a bunch of decades like me.
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Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
http://www.wizardofdraws.com
http://www.cartoonclipart.com

there are several Graphic design forums out there that can help you learn the basics of Photoshop.
http://www.grafixlounge.com
http://photoshopcafe.com
http://dreamweavercafe.com/cafe

why is brain surgery so difficult? Well because it's complex BD
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there are several Graphic design forums out there that can help you learn the basics of Photoshop.
http://www.grafixlounge.com
http://photoshopcafe.com
http://dreamweavercafe.com/cafe

"Bobby Dogg" wrote in message

why is brain surgery so difficult? Well because it's complex

That's it! We gotta come up with a GUI for self-brainsurgery .... as a prerequisite to becoming a web author.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:31:23 -0600, "jjs" <john&#064;xstafford.net> wrote:

"Bobby Dogg" wrote in message

why is brain surgery so difficult? Well because it's complex

That's it! We gotta come up with a GUI for self-brainsurgery .... as a prerequisite to becoming a web author.

That assumes there's a brain on which to commit surgery ... ;-)

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