Clone or heal tool: picks up unwanted pixels

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Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo
#1
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.
#2
Yes I did that before posting here. Align checked still picks up unwanted pixels though.

ZONED! wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.
#3
In article <7z17d.8542$
nz says...
Yes I did that before posting here. Align checked still picks up unwanted pixels though.

ZONED! wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.

The probable reason is that you are exceeding the "source" area that you intend to use for the Cloning. Use smaller strokes and remember that the area that you are Cloning from is equal to the size of the Clone brush used. As far as making a restrictive Selection for the Source, I don't think it can be done - someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hunt
#4
Hmmm - yes, ahaa

it may simply be that you are working too fast for the image data to be updated.

Let me explain,

When you are cloning the source data are selected then image processed into the destination image .

This may or may not involve layer effects or brush effects. When the cloning becomes a little too extensive or may be that the 'pooter you are using just has to take a little longer to go through all the image processing stages. The result is that some "old" data may be pulled in instead of "new" data.

Try doing the cloning a little slower, smaller strokes will help too.

Arty

"Hunt" wrote in message
In article <7z17d.8542$>,

nz says...
Yes I did that before posting here. Align checked still picks up unwanted pixels though.

ZONED! wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.

The probable reason is that you are exceeding the "source" area that you intend to use for the Cloning. Use smaller strokes and remember that the area
that you are Cloning from is equal to the size of the Clone brush used. As far
as making a restrictive Selection for the Source, I don't think it can be done
- someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hunt
#5
Thanks Arty, I appreciate your reply. I've ordered more ram and a ge force video card and apparently when those are installed I just won't know myself. Am very excited.

Cheers,
Jo

Artie wrote:
Hmmm - yes, ahaa

it may simply be that you are working too fast for the image data to be updated.

Let me explain,

When you are cloning the source data are selected then image processed into the destination image .

This may or may not involve layer effects or brush effects. When the cloning becomes a little too extensive or may be that the 'pooter you are using just has to take a little longer to go through all the image processing stages. The result is that some "old" data may be pulled in instead of "new" data.

Try doing the cloning a little slower, smaller strokes will help too.
Arty

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <7z17d.8542$>,

nz says...

Yes I did that before posting here. Align checked still picks up unwanted pixels though.

ZONED! wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.

The probable reason is that you are exceeding the "source" area that you intend to use for the Cloning. Use smaller strokes and remember that the area
that you are Cloning from is equal to the size of the Clone brush used. As far
as making a restrictive Selection for the Source, I don't think it can be done
- someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hunt

#6
Enchante Ma'am

Kind regards to Zaphod

Arty

"Mrs Beeble Brock" wrote in message
Thanks Arty, I appreciate your reply. I've ordered more ram and a ge force video card and apparently when those are installed I just won't know myself. Am very excited.

Cheers,
Jo

Artie wrote:
Hmmm - yes, ahaa

it may simply be that you are working too fast for the image data to be updated.

Let me explain,

When you are cloning the source data are selected then image processed into the destination image .

This may or may not involve layer effects or brush effects. When the cloning becomes a little too extensive or may be that the 'pooter you are using just has to take a little longer to go through all the image processing stages. The result is that some "old" data may be pulled in instead of "new" data.

Try doing the cloning a little slower, smaller strokes will help too.
Arty

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <7z17d.8542$>,

nz says...

Yes I did that before posting here. Align checked still picks up unwanted pixels though.

ZONED! wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and
heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep
getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've
tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area
aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.

The probable reason is that you are exceeding the "source" area that you intend to use for the Cloning. Use smaller strokes and remember that the area
that you are Cloning from is equal to the size of the Clone brush used. As far
as making a restrictive Selection for the Source, I don't think it can be done
- someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hunt

#7
If I ever meet anyone called Zaphod I'll be sure to say hi from you. Jo

Artie wrote:
Enchante Ma'am

Kind regards to Zaphod

Arty

"Mrs Beeble Brock" wrote in message

Thanks Arty, I appreciate your reply. I've ordered more ram and a ge force video card and apparently when those are installed I just won't know myself. Am very excited.

Cheers,
Jo

Artie wrote:

Hmmm - yes, ahaa

it may simply be that you are working too fast for the image data to be updated.

Let me explain,

When you are cloning the source data are selected then image processed into the destination image .

This may or may not involve layer effects or brush effects. When the cloning becomes a little too extensive or may be that the 'pooter you are using just has to take a little longer to go through all the image processing stages. The result is that some "old" data may be pulled in instead of "new" data.

Try doing the cloning a little slower, smaller strokes will help too.
Arty

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <7z17d.8542$>,

nz says...

Yes I did that before posting here. Align checked still picks up unwanted pixels though.

ZONED! wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and
heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep
getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've
tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area
aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little + sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.

The probable reason is that you are exceeding the "source" area that you intend to use for the Cloning. Use smaller strokes and remember that the area
that you are Cloning from is equal to the size of the Clone brush used. As far
as making a restrictive Selection for the Source, I don't think it can be done
- someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hunt
#8
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? Ford Prefect?

The one with 2 heads and Marvin the paranoid android?

Forgive me, I must be mistaken

Arty

"Mrs Beeble Brock" wrote in message
If I ever meet anyone called Zaphod I'll be sure to say hi from you. Jo

Artie wrote:
Enchante Ma'am

Kind regards to Zaphod

Arty

"Mrs Beeble Brock" wrote in message

Thanks Arty, I appreciate your reply. I've ordered more ram and a ge force video card and apparently when those are installed I just won't know myself. Am very excited.

Cheers,
Jo

Artie wrote:

Hmmm - yes, ahaa

it may simply be that you are working too fast for the image data to be updated.

Let me explain,

When you are cloning the source data are selected then image processed into the destination image .

This may or may not involve layer effects or brush effects. When the cloning becomes a little too extensive or may be that the 'pooter you are using just has to take a little longer to go through all the image processing stages. The result is that some "old" data may be pulled in instead of "new" data.

Try doing the cloning a little slower, smaller strokes will help too.
Arty

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <7z17d.8542$>,

nz says...

Yes I did that before posting here. Align checked still picks up unwanted pixels though.

ZONED! wrote:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Hi, am trying to remove writing from across some scans and the clone and
heal tools both work well. But the sampled area keeps moving and I keep
getting unwanted pixels involved in the area I'm trying to tidy up. I've
tried using a selection and also have also tried having the sampled area
aligned yet each time I get the wrong bits picked up when the little +
sign moves across the wrong pieces of image.

I thought there was a way to restrict a sampled area but can't seem to
figure out how. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,
Jo

Aligned or not? A quick search for clone in help may explain a lot.

The probable reason is that you are exceeding the "source" area that you
intend to use for the Cloning. Use smaller strokes and remember that the area
that you are Cloning from is equal to the size of the Clone brush used. As far
as making a restrictive Selection for the Source, I don't think it can be done
- someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hunt
#9
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 07:52:00 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Thanks Arty, I appreciate your reply. I've ordered more ram and a ge force video card and apparently when those are installed I just won't know myself. Am very excited.
Any chance you can swap the card for a Radeon or a Matrox?

The nVidia cards are the worst of the main types for 2D and have a tendency to overheat...

--

Hecate - The Real One

veni, vidi, reliqui
#10
Thanks Hecate, I may very well do that in the future. This card I've just installed is very tiny (only 32 megs but it was cheap on TradeMe) but it has a fan in it.
Jo

Hecate wrote:

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 07:52:00 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Thanks Arty, I appreciate your reply. I've ordered more ram and a ge force video card and apparently when those are installed I just won't know myself. Am very excited.

Any chance you can swap the card for a Radeon or a Matrox?
The nVidia cards are the worst of the main types for 2D and have a tendency to overheat...

--

Hecate - The Real One

veni, vidi, reliqui
#11
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:06:58 +1200, Mrs Beeble Brock
wrote:

Thanks Hecate, I may very well do that in the future. This card I've just installed is very tiny (only 32 megs but it was cheap on TradeMe) but it has a fan in it.
Jo

You should be safe enough with that. Have fun! :)

--

Hecate - The Real One

veni, vidi, reliqui
#12