LCD monitors (Lacie) for photography

Hello,

Does anyone has experience with the Lacie Photon's? In particular the photon19vision. I'm looking at buying a 19" LCD to hook up to my laptop for photo editing (web and inkjet printing). I don't really have the space for a CRT and my budget is around 500 pounds or $800 (so can't afford an Apple cinema display or Eizo ColorEdge). Any input would be appreciated.

BTW - I'm also looking at:
NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX, Iiyama ProLite E481S, Eizo L767 (bit of a stretch) and ViewSonic VX910 or VP191... Not sure what the difference is between these models. I hear that the Sharp LL-T19D1 is good too. Experience and feedback on these would be nice too.

Thanks,
Patrick

Why to buy 19" because all the 17" has the same resolution, i would buy better 17"

"Patrick P." wrote in message

Hello,

Does anyone has experience with the Lacie Photon's? In particular the photon19vision. I'm looking at buying a 19" LCD to hook up to my laptop for photo editing (web and inkjet printing). I don't really have the space for a CRT and my budget is around 500 pounds or $800 (so can't afford an Apple cinema display or Eizo ColorEdge). Any input would be appreciated.

BTW - I'm also looking at:
NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX, Iiyama ProLite E481S, Eizo L767 (bit of a stretch) and ViewSonic VX910 or VP191... Not sure what the difference is between these models. I hear that the Sharp LL-T19D1 is good too. Experience and feedback on these would be nice too.

Thanks,
Patrick

Lacie's are manufactured by Mitsubishi. A co-worker had a Lacie 22", that he loved! He later sold it to me when he went to a flat LCD. I also really like the Lacie 22". Later, he decided CRT's were better for photography, and bought another Lacie. Only this time is was a 19". He hated it, send it back the very next day. Go figure?

Bill Crocker

"Patrick P." wrote in message

Hello,

Does anyone has experience with the Lacie Photon's? In particular the photon19vision. I'm looking at buying a 19" LCD to hook up to my laptop for photo editing (web and inkjet printing). I don't really have the space for a CRT and my budget is around 500 pounds or $800 (so can't afford an Apple cinema display or Eizo ColorEdge). Any input would be appreciated.

BTW - I'm also looking at:
NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX, Iiyama ProLite E481S, Eizo L767 (bit of a stretch) and ViewSonic VX910 or VP191... Not sure what the difference is between these models. I hear that the Sharp LL-T19D1 is good too. Experience and feedback on these would be nice too.

Thanks,
Patrick

I use a 19" la cie photon lcd for photography...I have nikon and pentax 5 mp cameras and shoot either highest jpeg or raw...use photoshop CS on a mac g4 and use the analog connection of the monitor with a win xp machine...have both an epson 2200 and olympus p400 for prints....am very satisfied with the lacie monitor with this set up. I am able to produce prints that are very close to the monitor using epson and third party profiles.

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Lacie's are manufactured by Mitsubishi. A co-worker had a Lacie 22", that he loved! He later sold it to me when he went to a flat LCD. I also

really

like the Lacie 22". Later, he decided CRT's were better for photography, and bought another Lacie. Only this time is was a 19". He hated it, send it back the very next day. Go figure?

Bill Crocker

"Patrick P." wrote in message

Hello,

Does anyone has experience with the Lacie Photon's? In particular the photon19vision. I'm looking at buying a 19" LCD to hook up to my laptop for photo editing (web and inkjet printing). I don't really have the space for a CRT and my budget is around 500 pounds or $800 (so can't afford an Apple cinema display or Eizo ColorEdge). Any input would be appreciated.

BTW - I'm also looking at:
NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX, Iiyama ProLite E481S, Eizo L767 (bit of a stretch) and ViewSonic VX910 or VP191... Not sure what the difference is between these models. I hear that the Sharp LL-T19D1 is good too. Experience and feedback on these would be nice too.

Thanks,
Patrick

Make sure you can return it if you don't like how it works for you. The image quality of LCDs is significantly different than CRTs. For many people this is not a barrier but for many it is. Color fidelity is not always the issue so much as judging subtle tonal differences when you are regionally adjusting shadows, contrast or curves. Current technology is such that a good CRT is still significantly better than most LCDs for displaying wide tonality.

On 14 Sep 2004 11:41:55 -0700, (Patrick P.)
wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone has experience with the Lacie Photon's? In particular the photon19vision. I'm looking at buying a 19" LCD to hook up to my laptop for photo editing (web and inkjet printing). I don't really have the space for a CRT and my budget is around 500 pounds or $800 (so can't afford an Apple cinema display or Eizo ColorEdge). Any input would be appreciated.

BTW - I'm also looking at:
NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX, Iiyama ProLite E481S, Eizo L767 (bit of a stretch) and ViewSonic VX910 or VP191... Not sure what the difference is between these models. I hear that the Sharp LL-T19D1 is good too. Experience and feedback on these would be nice too.

Any of the above as long as colour fidelity isn't important to you. Otherwise, Eizo or a CRT.

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On 14 Sep 2004 11:41:55 -0700, (Patrick P.)
wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone has experience with the Lacie Photon's? In particular the photon19vision. I'm looking at buying a 19" LCD to hook up to my laptop for photo editing (web and inkjet printing). I don't really have the space for a CRT and my budget is around 500 pounds or $800 (so can't afford an Apple cinema display or Eizo ColorEdge). Any input would be appreciated.

BTW - I'm also looking at:
NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX, Iiyama ProLite E481S, Eizo L767 (bit of a stretch) and ViewSonic VX910 or VP191... Not sure what the difference is between these models. I hear that the Sharp LL-T19D1 is good too. Experience and feedback on these would be nice too.

Any of the above as long as colour fidelity isn't important to you. Otherwise, Eizo or a CRT.

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If Mitsubishi is making Lacie displays are they sharing technology? Does the Lacie photon19vision uses the same screen as the NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX?

Hecate, do you think the Eizo L767 will do the trick or does it have to be the very expensive CG18?

15 Sep 2004 03:10:40 -0700, suggested:
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: If Mitsubishi is making Lacie displays are they sharing technology? : Does the Lacie photon19vision uses the same screen as the : NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX?

It's hard to say. NEC-Mitsubishi even has monitors with different specs within their own product line (i.e. 1960NX vs. 1980SX).

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On 15 Sep 2004 03:10:40 -0700, (Patrick P.)
wrote:

If Mitsubishi is making Lacie displays are they sharing technology? Does the Lacie photon19vision uses the same screen as the NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX?

Mitsubishi sell their tubes to a variety of other manufacturers to include in their CRTs. Iiyama is another one (and generally seem to do a better job than Mitsubishi when the resulting CRTs are compared). I don't know whether those specific tubes are the same, you'd need to do some research.

Hecate, do you think the Eizo L767 will do the trick or does it have to be the very expensive CG18?

The L767 is excellent and will do the job. But, note that I just read a review for the L768 which I assume is it's replacement, and an improvement on the 767. However, the price is still about the same. You will get superb colour rendition which is accurate with almost any Eizo LCD/TFT screen.

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On 15 Sep 2004 03:10:40 -0700, (Patrick P.)
wrote:

If Mitsubishi is making Lacie displays are they sharing technology? Does the Lacie photon19vision uses the same screen as the NEC-Mitsubishi LCD1980SX?

Mitsubishi sell their tubes to a variety of other manufacturers to include in their CRTs. Iiyama is another one (and generally seem to do a better job than Mitsubishi when the resulting CRTs are compared). I don't know whether those specific tubes are the same, you'd need to do some research.

Hecate, do you think the Eizo L767 will do the trick or does it have to be the very expensive CG18?

The L767 is excellent and will do the job. But, note that I just read a review for the L768 which I assume is it's replacement, and an improvement on the 767. However, the price is still about the same. You will get superb colour rendition which is accurate with almost any Eizo LCD/TFT screen.

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Thanks for all the replies.

Hecate, can you please provide the link to the review. I'd like to have a look.

Looking at the specs the only difference I saw between the 2 models was the 768 has the rotate to portrait format option and a contrast ratio of 1000:1 as opposed to the 767 which has a contrast of 500:1 and no rotate option. Is there anything else?

I'm not sure anymore what's the significance of the contrast rating. Eizo's best color lcd (CG18 and 21) has a contrast of 400:1. Which leads me to assume that it is better for this ratio of be lower. Can anyone explain how this works?

On 16 Sep 2004 07:02:02 -0700, (Patrick P.)
wrote:

The L767 is excellent and will do the job. But, note that I just read a review for the L768 which I assume is it's replacement, and an improvement on the 767. However, the price is still about the same. You will get superb colour rendition which is accurate with almost any Eizo LCD/TFT screen.

Thanks for all the replies.

Hecate, can you please provide the link to the review. I'd like to have a look.

It was a UK magazine review. However, here's the summary:

"The 19" Eizo Flexscan has the most beautiful palette and a wide range of colour temperatures and modes that allow you to find exactly what you want. [...] Graphics professionals will relish the L768's gorgeous colour..."

It did say the response rate was on the slow side for games players, but that's not why you'd buy this.

Looking at the specs the only difference I saw between the 2 models was the 768 has the rotate to portrait format option and a contrast ratio of 1000:1 as opposed to the 767 which has a contrast of 500:1 and no rotate option. Is there anything else?

As far as I can tell. However, the improvement from 500:1 is significant and if you're going to spend a fair amount of money on purchasing this it may be wise to think of the future. OTOH, it'll probably mean you can the L767 for less. ;-)

I'm not sure anymore what's the significance of the contrast rating. Eizo's best color lcd (CG18 and 21) has a contrast of 400:1. Which leads me to assume that it is better for this ratio of be lower. Can anyone explain how this works?

Actually, no. The higher the ratio the better:

The Contrast Ratio is equivalent to the brightness of the white level divided by the brightness of the black level of a display. A higher contrast ratio makes it easier to distinguish dark colours from one another.

So, the higher ratio gives you better colour separation and definition.

Hope that helps.

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