I’m Still Hurting Over Here!

DW
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Derek_W_Brown
Oct 7, 2003
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I recently solicited advice for printing. All the usual suggestions were made and a web link was posted. I know that I’m not doing something right, but as you’ve probably figured out for yourselves, trouble shooting color problems can be tricky. Once again I’ve come to beg your advice, prostrating myself in familiar floor, because let’s be honest. If you don’t have good color management, you don’t really have anything but garbage do you? Thankx.

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YrbkMgr
Oct 8, 2003
State a question that leads to answering a specific problem. The answer to the question you posted is "usually".

Help us help you.
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Burton_Ogden
Oct 8, 2003
Derek,

I read your previous message thread,

<http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?128@@.2ccda60a>

and it seems that you got good advice there, despite some communication problems and a touch of "homonymic dyslexia" (grin). You criticized HP, but you can’t really expect HP to help you with Canon printer color management. If it any encouragement, your Canon is capable of making great looking photo prints.

— Burton —
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Lawrence_Hudetz
Oct 8, 2003
I have a Canon S9000 and experience really great prints, Derek. What I didn’t see in your posts is exactly what’s happening. Are you being critical of the subtle color errors the Canon produces? Mostly in B&W, I might add. Full color is superb.

For Canon your setup should be as follows:
Print Options:
Source: Space>Document
Print Space Profile: BJ Color Printer Profile 2000
Intent: Perceptual.

You can find that profile in the drop down menu in Print Space Profile.

Next, Click "Properties"

Media Type: Choose Matte for just about everything, except office documents. Then Plain Paper is fine. The other media types don’t print as well as Matte, IMHO.

Print Quality: You can leave it on High for now.

Color Adjustment: Auto works, but clicking Manual and playing with the various selections in the Print Type Box gives some variations. I would stick with Photo here. Leave everything else alone for now!

Now run your print.

Does it look better?
DW
Derek_W_Brown
Oct 8, 2003
The problems I’m having are as follows. My monitor shows images true to the original before they were scanned. My antique finish photo, that looks ideal and true on the monitor, transfers black and white and greatly decreases the brightness of the banner style text and other image. I tried, emphasis on tried, to implement the color management profile in print with preview with NO success. I tried looking back on the suggested link but as one might expect, the server can not find the page. I’ve emailed them too. What can I do to get a quality print? What can I do to evenly match my monitor’s image with my final print? Please help me.
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YrbkMgr
Oct 8, 2003
Derek,

All good color management begins with an accurate monitor profile. Then, the plot thickens. Ian Lyons’ site has helped many get up and running quickly, myself included.

There are a lot of variables to control for: What color space are you using on the image? When you do Print with Preview, what do you have set for Destination Color space? Do you use media profiles? What settings do you use in the print driver? What paper are you using?

Again, most of this is covered at Ian’s Site < http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_print/ps7_print_mac.htm>.

In order to help, really, make sure you let us know what printer you’re using so that those individuals with experience with that printer can help you tweak settings.

Peace,
Tony
LH
Lawrence_Hudetz
Oct 8, 2003
Tony, he’s using a Canon S900. That’s why I posted detailed account.

Derek, is the Grayscale box checked in the printer dialog? Uncheck it. Also, be certain that the proper profile shows in the Printer Space box.
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YrbkMgr
Oct 9, 2003
Lawrence,

Try minimizing then maximizing again. If that doesn’t work, try restore.
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Derek_W_Brown
Oct 9, 2003
Some progress has been made but I am not satisfied. Please suggest books or reading materials on color management and icc profiles.
LH
Lawrence_Hudetz
Oct 9, 2003
"Real World Photoshop" Blatner and Fraser.

Also, put Color Management and/or icc profiles in Google.

Tony, I did try restore, but no avail. It’s all better now since I did a Reset Prefs, but I hate to do that!
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YrbkMgr
Oct 9, 2003
Lawrence,

I always keep a copy of my Preferences.PSP in a safe location, for just such an emergency. Fwiw.
LH
Lawrence_Hudetz
Oct 9, 2003
I also had a copy saved, but when I went to load it, I found that all the preferences didn’t load. I don’t remember which didn’t, so now I keep them in my head and run down the list.
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YrbkMgr
Oct 9, 2003
I don’t get that. When I’ve done it, as a test, I trashed the preferences, loaded photoshop, closed photoshop. A new preferences file was created. Then I copied my saved version back to the correct location, deleted the newly created one, renamed my copy, and loaded photoshop. It worked perfectly.

<shrug>.
LH
Lawrence_Hudetz
Oct 9, 2003
Ok, I can try that again.

Since I haven’t saved anything, I also don’t remember the setup. So I looked for a file labelled Preferences.psp or pref.psp or prefs.psp and come up empty.

I opened Ps6 in programs and didn’t find it.
Where is it?
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YrbkMgr
Oct 9, 2003
In order to see it in explorer, you have to have hidden files enabled from the view tab.

See this kB article on locations for your OS.

<http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/6712.htm>
LH
Lawrence_Hudetz
Oct 10, 2003
I did find it Tony. Thanks.

It would be nice if it was conveniently available in Programs>Adobe>Photoshop. IMHO 😉

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