PS Snobs

infranview is pretty good actually, i know a few people who use it for basic manipulation. Personally i find ps slower and slower to boot up since cs3. SO if its only a quick edit you need they why not use simple quicker software

i guess i am agreeing with the troll

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:20:45 -0800, A Troll
wrote:

Why are many ‘older and experienced’ (as they say) such snobs about anything Adobe? Are they just pretending or what.
I know of people that use PSP 8 to adjust jpgs so they can print using better software that CS5. I certainly do not use Adobe for PDF.
The following is a serious sample from yahoo something:

What an insult to Photoshop that people would suggest using Infranview or Faststone Photo Resizer or anything else other than PS.

Why on earth did you buy a $500 program to resort to a free one?

I’m shocked and embarrassed to say I am the list owner. I think I’ll just turn off the computer and go get ready for the big game.

"A Troll" wrote in message

Why are many ‘older and experienced’ (as they say) such snobs about anything Adobe? Are they just pretending or what.
I know of people that use PSP 8 to adjust jpgs so they can print using better software that CS5. I certainly do not use Adobe for PDF.
The following is a serious sample from yahoo something:

What an insult to Photoshop that people would suggest using Infranview or Faststone Photo Resizer or anything else other than PS.

Why on earth did you buy a $500 program to resort to a free one?

I’m shocked and embarrassed to say I am the list owner. I think I’ll just turn off the computer and go get ready for the big game.

People are free to use whatever they want. Maybe Photoshop is too complicated to learn, or they think it is? I used to think that many years ago (I had Paint Shop Pro 7 at the time) but then kept trying PS (7) and got hooked on it. Now I have CS3 and tried the trial of the newer ones and I’m fine with what I have. I got it on ebay (new) last year for $86. Took me awhile of watching to get it, but I was determined. Now, to have enough time to learn what PS can do, it’s never-ending surprises for me.

"david johnson" wrote in message

infranview is pretty good actually, i know a few people who use it for basic manipulation. Personally i find ps slower and slower to boot up since cs3. SO if its only a quick edit you need they why not use simple quicker software

i guess i am agreeing with the troll

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:20:45 -0800, A Troll
wrote:

Why are many ‘older and experienced’ (as they say) such snobs about anything Adobe? Are they just pretending or what.
I know of people that use PSP 8 to adjust jpgs so they can print using better software that CS5. I certainly do not use Adobe for PDF.
The following is a serious sample from yahoo something:

What an insult to Photoshop that people would suggest using Infranview or Faststone Photo Resizer or anything else other than PS.

Why on earth did you buy a $500 program to resort to a free one?

I’m shocked and embarrassed to say I am the list owner. I think I’ll just turn off the computer and go get ready for the big game.

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects).
I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:35:51 -0500, "Carrie"
scribbled:

"A Troll" wrote in message

Why are many ‘older and experienced’ (as they say) such snobs about anything Adobe? Are they just pretending or what.
I know of people that use PSP 8 to adjust jpgs so they can print using better software that CS5. I certainly do not use Adobe for PDF.
The following is a serious sample from yahoo something:

What an insult to Photoshop that people would suggest using Infranview or Faststone Photo Resizer or anything else other than PS.

Why on earth did you buy a $500 program to resort to a free one?

I’m shocked and embarrassed to say I am the list owner. I think I’ll just turn off the computer and go get ready for the big game.

People are free to use whatever they want. Maybe Photoshop is too

And you’re free to be as stupid as you can be… Damn, you’re almost there.

complicated to learn, or they think it is? I used to think that many years ago (I had Paint Shop Pro 7 at the time) but then kept trying PS (7) and got hooked on it. Now I have CS3 and tried the trial of the newer ones and I’m

You should have tried heroin, it would have made you smarter AND kept you out of the newsgroups.

fine with what I have. I got it on ebay (new) last year for $86. Took me

Which means you bought a pirate copy.

awhile of watching to get it, but I was determined. Now, to have enough time to learn what PS can do, it’s never-ending surprises for me.

So’s the contents of your navel.

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:38:22 -0500, "Carrie"
scribbled:

"david johnson" wrote in message

infranview is pretty good actually, i know a few people who use it for basic manipulation. Personally i find ps slower and slower to boot up since cs3. SO if its only a quick edit you need they why not use simple quicker software

i guess i am agreeing with the troll

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:20:45 -0800, A Troll
wrote:

Why are many ‘older and experienced’ (as they say) such snobs about anything Adobe? Are they just pretending or what.
I know of people that use PSP 8 to adjust jpgs so they can print using better software that CS5. I certainly do not use Adobe for PDF.
The following is a serious sample from yahoo something:

What an insult to Photoshop that people would suggest using Infranview or Faststone Photo Resizer or anything else other than PS.

Why on earth did you buy a $500 program to resort to a free one?

I’m shocked and embarrassed to say I am the list owner. I think I’ll just turn off the computer and go get ready for the big game.

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects).
I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

Please, end yourself, thanks.

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects). I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

I think you guys are mssing the point
all that is mentioned are photo thumbnail viewers
when someone downloads several pics, it is nice to
be able to view and slightly edit them and delete unwanted pics when accomplished, then we go into photoshop and do final editing. throughout the years I have download thousand of fantasy pics from newsgroups. I will then modify, add, subtract parts for my entertainment. Also viewers are great for editing camera photos, meaning , delete the junk
My favorite is acdsee pro5

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:34:58 -0500, "Ulysses"
scribbled:

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects). I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

I think you guys are mssing the point

Is it on top of your head?

all that is mentioned are photo thumbnail viewers
when someone downloads several pics, it is nice to
be able to view and slightly edit them and delete unwanted pics when accomplished, then we go into photoshop and do final

Who’s this ‘we’ you imagine you’re speaking for?

editing. throughout the years I have download thousand of fantasy pics from newsgroups. I will then modify, add, subtract

Dog porn is ‘fantasy pics’?

parts for my entertainment. Also viewers are great for editing

So you ‘shop yourself into the beastiality pics? You pervert!

camera photos, meaning , delete the junk
My favorite is acdsee pro5

hey a-void
why don’t you adopt carrie and ulysses
make room in your moble home
teach them to be real smart, like you

— Posted via —

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:58:05 -0500, "Drogon"
scribbled:

hey a-void

Aww, a name lame. How cute is that? Are you 12?!

why don’t you adopt carrie and ulysses

Why can’t you write a proper sentence?

make room in your moble home

My home’s not mobile but thanks for projecting.

teach them to be real smart, like you

They’re beyond help… like you.

By the way, the word ‘void’ appears nowhere in my nickname so not only can’t you write you also can’t read very well either.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:20:45 -0800, A Troll
wrote:

Why are many ‘older and experienced’ (as they say) such snobs about anything Adobe? Are they just pretending or what.
I know of people that use PSP 8 to adjust jpgs so they can print using better software that CS5. I certainly do not use Adobe for PDF.
The following is a serious sample from yahoo something:

What an insult to Photoshop that people would suggest using Infranview or Faststone Photo Resizer or anything else other than PS.

Why on earth did you buy a $500 program to resort to a free one?

I’m shocked and embarrassed to say I am the list owner. I think I’ll just turn off the computer and go get ready for the big game.

You are missing the point. Most are not Photoshop snobs, we just like the vast number of adjustments that Photoshop offers. That’s not to say that PaintShop Pro isn’t good editing software also, it’s just that Photoshop offers more tools, that’s all.
I have IrfanView and Paintshop Pro, but I find that I always use PhotoShop to edit my pictures because I can do everything I need to do with PS. If I were to use different software, I might not be able to accomplish the same things.
What you need to consider is that not everyone needs
Photoshop…especially if they just want to make a few basic adjustments to a picture. Spending $600 for Photoshop to do some basic editing would be ridiculous, so you’s be better to spend less and get Photoshop Elements or Paintshop Pro.(or go the free route and use IrfanView.)
By the same token, if you had Photoshop and used it to do most of your more involved photo editing, I think that you’d see the shortcomings of any other program.
As for the slow loading of Photoshop…well, I use PhotoShop CS3 and it loads in 3 seconds.(I have hundreds of plugins too.) Then again, my computer is using an Intel 990X chip which has 6 cores running at 3.46 Ghz, and 24GB of DDR3 RAM running at 1333 Mhz, so I never have any problems with anything being slow.

Talker

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:41:09 -0500, in alt.graphics.photoshop you wrote:

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:20:45 -0800, A Troll
wrote:

Why are many ‘older and experienced’ (as they say) such snobs about anything Adobe? Are they just pretending or what.
I know of people that use PSP 8 to adjust jpgs so they can print using better software that CS5. I certainly do not use Adobe for PDF.
The following is a serious sample from yahoo something:

What an insult to Photoshop that people would suggest using Infranview or Faststone Photo Resizer or anything else other than PS.

Why on earth did you buy a $500 program to resort to a free one?

I’m shocked and embarrassed to say I am the list owner. I think I’ll just turn off the computer and go get ready for the big game.

You are missing the point. Most are not Photoshop snobs, we just

YOU’RE missing the point, troll bait.

like the vast number of adjustments that Photoshop offers. That’s not

We who?

to say that PaintShop Pro isn’t good editing software also, it’s just that Photoshop offers more tools, that’s all.
I have IrfanView and Paintshop Pro, but I find that I always use PhotoShop to edit my pictures because I can do everything I need to do with PS. If I were to use different software, I might not be able to accomplish the same things.

Aren’t you SPECIAL! Have a cookie! Have two! You deserve it!

What you need to consider is that not everyone needs
Photoshop…especially if they just want to make a few basic adjustments to a picture. Spending $600 for Photoshop to do some basic editing would be ridiculous, so you’s be better to spend less and get Photoshop Elements or Paintshop Pro.(or go the free route and use IrfanView.)

Or just shut the fuck up already…

By the same token, if you had Photoshop and used it to do most of your more involved photo editing, I think that you’d see the shortcomings of any other program.
As for the slow loading of Photoshop…well, I use PhotoShop CS3 and it loads in 3 seconds.(I have hundreds of plugins too.) Then again, my computer is using an Intel 990X chip which has 6 cores running at 3.46 Ghz, and 24GB of DDR3 RAM running at 1333 Mhz, so I never have any problems with anything being slow.

It’s really funny when people start rolling out their penis substitutes and measuring them publicly.

"Ulysses" wrote in message

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects). I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

I think you guys are mssing the point
all that is mentioned are photo thumbnail viewers
when someone downloads several pics, it is nice to
be able to view and slightly edit them and delete unwanted pics when accomplished, then we go into photoshop and do final editing. throughout the years I have download thousand of fantasy pics from newsgroups. I will then modify, add, subtract parts for my entertainment. Also viewers are great for editing camera photos, meaning , delete the junk
My favorite is acdsee pro5

Okay, I see what you mean. Infranview is good for this, though I think Bridge would be, too. At least for deleting ones unwanted from the start. Though don’t know how much editing one can do with it, without opening PS or Raw. I’ll have to check out acdsee pro 5 (ac-dc?)

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:39:51 -0500, "Carrie"
wrote:

"Ulysses" wrote in message

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects). I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

I think you guys are mssing the point
all that is mentioned are photo thumbnail viewers
when someone downloads several pics, it is nice to
be able to view and slightly edit them and delete unwanted pics when accomplished, then we go into photoshop and do final editing. throughout the years I have download thousand of fantasy pics from newsgroups. I will then modify, add, subtract parts for my entertainment. Also viewers are great for editing camera photos, meaning , delete the junk
My favorite is acdsee pro5

Okay, I see what you mean. Infranview is good for this, though I think Bridge would be, too. At least for deleting ones unwanted from the start. Though don’t know how much editing one can do with it, without opening PS or Raw. I’ll have to check out acdsee pro 5 (ac-dc?)

Try FastStone Image Viewer

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:48:50 -0800, A Troll
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:39:51 -0500, "Carrie"
wrote:

"Ulysses" wrote in message

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects). I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

I think you guys are mssing the point
all that is mentioned are photo thumbnail viewers
when someone downloads several pics, it is nice to
be able to view and slightly edit them and delete unwanted pics when accomplished, then we go into photoshop and do final editing. throughout the years I have download thousand of fantasy pics from newsgroups. I will then modify, add, subtract parts for my entertainment. Also viewers are great for editing camera photos, meaning , delete the junk
My favorite is acdsee pro5

Okay, I see what you mean. Infranview is good for this, though I think Bridge would be, too. At least for deleting ones unwanted from the start. Though don’t know how much editing one can do with it, without opening PS or Raw. I’ll have to check out acdsee pro 5 (ac-dc?)

Try FastStone Image Viewer

I have PS CS4, Elements 9, and Lightroom2. Still, my first run-through for downloaded images is in FastStone. The obvious misses are tagged, the images are sorted by tags, and all tagged images are deleted. The second run through is in FastStone using the compare images side-by-side to decide which of multiple shots of the same thing to keep.

No editing of any kind is done in FastStone, though. That’s done in CS4. I admittedly under-utilize Lightroom2 and use it just as a keyworded filing cabinet.

—
Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida

Its Acdsee Pro 5
here is the link, Carrie
http://www.acdsee.com/

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:39:51 -0500, "Carrie"
scribbled:

"Ulysses" wrote in message

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects). I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

I think you guys are mssing the point
all that is mentioned are photo thumbnail viewers
when someone downloads several pics, it is nice to
be able to view and slightly edit them and delete unwanted pics when accomplished, then we go into photoshop and do final editing. throughout the years I have download thousand of fantasy pics from newsgroups. I will then modify, add, subtract parts for my entertainment. Also viewers are great for editing camera photos, meaning , delete the junk
My favorite is acdsee pro5

Okay, I see what you mean. Infranview is good for this, though I think Bridge would be, too. At least for deleting ones unwanted from the start. Though don’t know how much editing one can do with it, without opening PS or Raw. I’ll have to check out acdsee pro 5 (ac-dc?)

No, you stupid douche, everyone didn’t just spell it wrong to confuse you. For the love of the gods do the world a favor and drink bleach.

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:18:18 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:48:50 -0800, A Troll
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:39:51 -0500, "Carrie"
wrote:

"Ulysses" wrote in message

I have CS3 and it is kind of slow to load but I am a plug-in junkie (LOL) I never paid much attention to bridge but did a tutorial about PS basics (Lynda.com) and learned about it and now use it a lot. I tried Infranview once, but remember it as being kind of slow and confusing. Maybe I have it confused with something else. I sometimes use Kodak EasyShare software (talk about slow, you have to select a picture, bring it up , click EDIT, every little step) I only use it for one thing, the "cartoon" effect which is pretty good (in the fun effects). I guess it’s all what one is used to in a way.

I think you guys are mssing the point
all that is mentioned are photo thumbnail viewers
when someone downloads several pics, it is nice to
be able to view and slightly edit them and delete unwanted pics when accomplished, then we go into photoshop and do final editing. throughout the years I have download thousand of fantasy pics from newsgroups. I will then modify, add, subtract parts for my entertainment. Also viewers are great for editing camera photos, meaning , delete the junk
My favorite is acdsee pro5

Okay, I see what you mean. Infranview is good for this, though I think Bridge would be, too. At least for deleting ones unwanted from the start. Though don’t know how much editing one can do with it, without opening PS or Raw. I’ll have to check out acdsee pro 5 (ac-dc?)

Try FastStone Image Viewer

I have PS CS4, Elements 9, and Lightroom2. Still, my first run-through for downloaded images is in FastStone. The obvious misses are tagged, the images are sorted by tags, and all tagged images are deleted. The second run through is in FastStone using the compare images side-by-side to decide which of multiple shots of the same thing to keep.

No editing of any kind is done in FastStone, though. That’s done in CS4. I admittedly under-utilize Lightroom2 and use it just as a keyworded filing cabinet.

I’m with you – I use a similar procedure with FastStone and now I can even do PSD files with it. Found a free plugin or prog. I have CS5 and budgets is not a problem. Some of the best things in life are free <grin>.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:33:03 -0800, RC scribbled:

I’m with you – I use a similar procedure with FastStone and now I can even do PSD files with it. Found a free plugin or prog. I have CS5 and budgets is not a problem. Some of the best things in life are free <grin>.

I may be a prick of a troll but at least I’m not a fucking thief.

Try FastStone Image Viewer

I have PS CS4, Elements 9, and Lightroom2. Still, my first run-through for downloaded images is in FastStone. The obvious misses are tagged, the images are sorted by tags, and all tagged images are deleted. The second run through is in FastStone using the compare images side-by-side to decide which of multiple shots of the same thing to keep.

No editing of any kind is done in FastStone, though. That’s done in CS4. I admittedly under-utilize Lightroom2 and use it just as a keyworded filing cabinet.

—
Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida

many thanks Tony, on suggestion reguarding faststone
I bought Acdsee and now a little sorry i did
faststone is a powerful thumb viewer
for all listening: get it, its free. I will make a
little donation

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:26:49 -0500, "Ulysses" wrote:

Try FastStone Image Viewer

I have PS CS4, Elements 9, and Lightroom2. Still, my first run-through for downloaded images is in FastStone. The obvious misses are tagged, the images are sorted by tags, and all tagged images are deleted. The second run through is in FastStone using the compare images side-by-side to decide which of multiple shots of the same thing to keep.

No editing of any kind is done in FastStone, though. That’s done in CS4. I admittedly under-utilize Lightroom2 and use it just as a keyworded filing cabinet.

—
Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida

many thanks Tony, on suggestion reguarding faststone
I bought Acdsee and now a little sorry i did
faststone is a powerful thumb viewer
for all listening: get it, its free. I will make a
little donation

FastStone also has an easy-to-use re-numbering method under "Tools". I like to use the date (2012-02-09-001) as the file number, and this can be done by typing in the date plus ### for a series. FS can also automatically number the images by date and time. Right-clicking on a thumbnail can take you to your editing program.

—
Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida