I played around with the burn tool and was able to darken the red eye brush tool results. Seems to me the red eye brush tool needs an enhancement to darken the area selected. I don’t understand why they design a tool like this and then you have to use other tools to get desired results.
I also found that if you use the Apple Color picker vs the Adobe color picker and you use "Current Color" to choose the target area color the cursor doesn’t change to an eyedrop tool as the instructions state. Using the Apple Color pick locks out the cursor changing to an eyedrop so you can select the target color. Might as well use first click feature when the Apple color picker is selected.
Thanks
Kelvin
Kelvin,
The Red Eye tool doesn’t work that well so the menthod I use is:
Select the red area plus a few pixels … feather a little. Make a new layer … and do each eye on a separate layer. Enhance>colour>hue & sat> … select red from the edit box and reduce saturation tozero or thereabouts
Enhance>Brightness & contrast>levels .. move the left hand marker in about a third of the way and move the centre marker over to the right until the area goes dark … not too far or it will look artificial.
It works quite well on both People and Animals.
For People if you want to change the colour of the iris then select the area and do Enhance>colour>hue & sat … that way you get to keep all of the different shades and it looks much more natural.
Wendy
Thanks, I’ll have to read up on layers.
How do you selet the red area and surrounding pixels and then feather them.
Maybe I should ask which is a good PSE book to learn techniques. I think I can get the mechanics from the user manual but learning these tricks and how and when tools can be used is what confusing. I think a book that explores taking a sample photo and then doing corrections and some cool stuff would be a good resource.
Thanks
Kelvin
Try "50 Fast Digital Photo Techniques" by Gregory Georges. He provides a CD of the photos used in each chapter so you can work along with the book. It’s an excellent tutorial-based book.
Kelvin,
To select the red areas and feather them. Select the lasso tool then look at the top of the screen … you will see feather. Set it for maybe 1 or 2 then use the lasso tool to go round the red area … you will get a sort of flashing border a lot of people call it "Marching Ants" and there you have your feathered selection.
Wendy
If you’re using iPhoto in conjunction with Elements you may wish to try iPhotos red eye removal tool. It works surprisingly well.
If you’re using iPhoto in conjunction with Elements you may wish to try iPhotos red eye removal tool.
That’s what I use and you’re right Mark it does work well. I also second Barb’s book recommendation. "50 Fast" is very informative and I had lots of fun working through the individual lessons/techniques.
Joe
Thanks everyone for the book suggestions. I’ll look for them.
I’ve been looking at that website posted above and I’m going through some of his tutorials.
I found another bug with PSE that causes a crash. I downloaded new recipes and when I went to the How To pallete to look to see if the new recipes were there PSE unexpectantly quit on me. Do you guys find that as new MacOS X releases and updates come out that PSE get buggier?
So lets see, don’t use the Attach to Email feature and down’t download recipes unless you save your work.
I guess Adobe doesn’t bother to with bug fixes between releases.
Thanks
Kelvin
Kelvin, if something in Elements works with one version of OS, then doesn’t work with the next version of OS, that sounds like an OS problem. Maybe the problem is with Apple, not Adobe…. I’ve been through a couple versions and multiple updates of Windows, and still no bugs with Elements.
The recipes thing is not a known bug, Kelvin. May be something to do with your particular system.
Or possibly a corrupt download.
Chuck you are treading on thin ice to suggest that anything Apple could be less than perfect. LOL I have been through 98SE, 2000 pro and XP home with no difficulties.
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Have A Nice Day, 🙂
James Hutchinson
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Kelvin, if something in Elements works with one version of OS, then
doesn’t
work with the next version of OS, that sounds like an OS problem. Sounds like the problem is with Apple, not Adobe…. I’ve been
through a couple
versions and multiple updates of Windows, and still no bugs with
Elements.
Kelvin,
The attach to email has been like that since the beginning so there hasn’t been any change there. Plus the downloading of recipes depends on how the Adobe site is running at any one time … and most of the time its difficult to download them. However once they are downloaded there usually isn’t any great problem with them .. once again this hasn’t changed since I first got Elements.
I’ve used Elements with OS8 right up to OS 10.3.3 and have not encountered any problems other than the two above, so I’m not sure why you think its getting buggier with each OS update. Actually it hasn’t changed …..
Wendy
James, I know…..
🙂
p.s. Elements has been the least buggy software I’ve ever used, bar none. Truly amazing!
Chuck,
Love that smile …. and us Mac users are watching you 🙂
Wendy
Chuck you are treading on thin ice to suggest that anything Apple could be less than perfect.
James, I know you’re joking but rest assured, as much we love our Macs we are not without plenty of complaints about Apple. They are far from perfect. But I think I’ll still keep my Mac.
Chuck,
I see you so often on these Mac threads that I’m starting to think you’re a closet wannabe switcher. Any Apple stores your neck of the woods?
And I’m also amazed at how unbuggy Photoshop Elements is considering the complexity of the program.
The only time I’ve ever had problems with Elements crashing were when I had insufficient RAM (256Mb was not enough for large files – 756 is much better) and when I was running it in Classic with certain rather buggy third party plugins. The only other problems I’ve had have been solved by the old "delete the preferences" routine – and I’ve only had to to that three times I think in nearly two years.
Susan S
Mark, I’m way too committed to Windows software and hardware; only if I hit the Texas Lottery will I consider a switch!
🙂
Chuck,
"Only if I hit the Texas Lottery will I consider a switch!"
We will hold you to that one BUT when you hit the big one and buy your new Mac you need to fly us all in to watch the big switch on 🙂
We could have an Adobe Elements convention and wouldn’t that be nice 🙂
Wendy
Wendy,
I’d even show up my new "6K $ smile…" for the occasion… (big grins!!)
Ray
Ray,
Chuck has gone very quiet … maybe he has already won 🙂
Wendy
Wendy, did I miss something?? Guess I have to go back through this thread!
OH! The lottery…. Nah, I’ll be heading off to work at 5:45 a.m. tomorrow as usual….
🙁
Thanks for everyones comments. this is my first Mac since the 7.6 days and my first laptop and my first experience with Mac OS X. I guess I was unfortunate to stumple upon a couple of bugs the first few hours of using Photoshop Elements. I did use it the remainder of the day playing around with some tutorials about using Layers etc. At least when it does crash nothing else with the system or other running apps are affected.
However it would be nice to have someone fix these issues.
Kelvin
Kelvin, what we are trying to tell you is that except for "attach to e-mail" PE shouldn’t be crashing. There is something wrong if it is. It’s a very stable program in both OS X and win XP.
What system maintenance have you done? Do you repair permissions, run macjanitor?
No, PSE isn’t crashing on me unless I do the Attach to Email feature and that one time I downloaded the Recipes. Sorry for not making it clear. It’s been stable just trying out the tools and trying to understand layers.
That’s another area I’ll have to read up on is OSX troubleshooting. I’ve run Repair Permissions to see what it does but haven’t bothered to read anything else. So far I’ve only rebooted it a couple of times in a month, once after downloading all the Apple updates, 10.3.4 etc, and once after the PSE Attach to Email issues. I thought it might be prudent. Other than that, the iBook just sleeps when not in use.
Thank you.
Kelvin
The only other thing you need to do is go to versiontracker or macupdate and download MacJanitor. UNIX (which X is) has some housekeeping chores it runs in the wee hours of the AM and they don’t get done if your computer sleeps or is shut down.
MacJanitor is a free GUI to let you do these manually whenever you want. You just click a button. If you just run "all tasks" about twice a month you should be fine.
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Kelvin, if something in Elements works with one version of OS, then doesn’t work with the next version of OS, that sounds like an OS problem. Maybe the problem is with Apple, not Adobe…. I’ve been through a couple versions and multiple updates of Windows, and still no bugs with Elements.
I consider the way in which the red eye tool makes pupils grey rather than black a MAJOR BUG.
And it appears to apply to all versions.
There are a few more I have found, if you need them.
