So, you want some arbitrary data added to every image? Why not just add a copyright notice yourself before saving for web?
If the copyright notice has been appended to the metadata, you can include it in every image by checking the appropriate box in the SFW dialog.
If you include your images in a Flash-driven Adobe Web gallery, it makes it harder (but not impossible) for people to grab them illicitly.
Ann is right, click the tiny arrow Troy (you really have to go in search of this on the Save for web preset pane) to reveal "include XMP". Pretty crude offering if you ask me. If Orphan Works passes, visual artists will need some kind of technology that embeds copyright and other XMP info into the image permanently. I have bitched about this for years…
Lonna:
Metadata in SFW is much easier to manage in CS4.
Lonna and others,
Thank you. That is absurd that is buried so far down but at least it is there. Thank you Troy
Please make it easier to save your data to images that are saved for web. I am asking that Adobe make the default setting so that copyright information and contact information is included with the file.
With Orphan Works passing the Senate and possibly becoming law, it is critical for Adobe to change how images are saved to websites.
Thank you.
Cameron
Selecting those images in the bridge and adding the xmp to all of them is not practical for you?
It seems that a few people here are misunderstanding the audience of this forum. Make your feature requests directly to Adobe. This user to user forum is not the place to make feature requests.
Jim
Do you have a link to where one can make a request to Adobe? That would be helpful.
Wade,
Not everyone embraces or uses "Bridge." I don’t. This is a serious issue and needs to be addressed by Adobe. Any image that was "saved for web" with the metadata stripped (by Photoshop, I might add) is open territory for someone to use the image under the new "Orphan Works" rules. (If they pass). Any user can "claim" that they had no way to find the creator of the image since their is no metadata attached to the image. Yes, Bridge is one way to do this, but it is another step in the process and why must Adobe by default, strip the data?
Thank you.
At the bottom of every Adobe web page is a ‘contact us’ link. Click that, then choose the feedback tab.
Cameron,
why must Adobe by default, strip the data?
While I understand you concern, Save for Web… attempts to make file "weight" as low as possible — specifically to optimize images for the Web. Adding any metadata would defeat that.
But, sure, no reason why it can’t be an option for saving files. Let Adobe know.
Neil
Not everyone embraces or uses "Bridge." I don’t.
I feel for you but you will have to learn to embrace the Bridge as it becomes more important to the working of the creative suites integration.
No way around it. You’ll see how much you like it in the future and how you will become to depend àon it.
Any user can "claim" that they had no way to find the creator of the image since their is no metadata attached to the image.
There may also be a fundamental misunderstanding of protecting images on a web page here. There are very, very, very few people that will be looking at meta data in an image for copyright. And few applications will even reveal that meta data to the user.
You can’t stop someone from taking your image from your site and you can’t track what they do with it. The best way that anyone can try to protect their copyright is to stamp a visible mark somewhere on the image that not only announces copyright but points the viewer to your site (ex: © 2008 Joe Photography – joephoto.com). So if someone steals your image and posts it elsewhere, other viewers will know where to find the source. The image thief may be your best marketer.
Most of the problems I encounter are from clients use of my hi-res photography, whether intentional or otherwise. I’m looking for technology that embeds my copyright information permanently into the image when I create a hi-res file for delivery. A watermark is not the answer and neither is XMP as long as it can be stripped out, or in the case of a jpeg left out when a client creates a new jpeg. I have seen watermarks retouched out and and bylines cropped off especially when files are sent out for PR and editorial purposes.
Why can’t an authors copyright and contact info be embedded once to a photo and locked for security against deletion or changes by others?
JPG, GIF, and PNG were never designed for DRM. No watermark or meta trick will change this.
If you don’t want hi-res photos loose, don’t release them.
If you need to demonstrate the hi-res quality of your art, consider zoomify, which chops your image into tiles and makes them less prone for theft.
seen watermarks retouched out and and bylines cropped off
How do you retouch or crop a watermark that appears in the center of an image or over the subject?
Not everyone embraces or uses "Bridge." I don’t.>
Cameron:
I suggest that you will want to revise that opinion once you see the CS4 version of Bridge and Bridge-hosted ACR 5.x.
The new version frankly knocks the socks off Lightroom and is a completely different animal from Bridge CS3!
How do you retouch or crop a watermark that appears in the center of an image or over the subject? >
For someone who is determined to steal, and has reasonable retouching skills, it is not impossible. Also plastering a visible watermark right across an image does attract from its appeal if you are hoping to attract buyers.
You could always register with Digimarc if you think that it is worth it.
I think John Nack must have known what Cameron was going to say this morning and therefore posted this especially for him:
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[The NEW Bridge]
Getting back to the metadata, in PSCS4 SFW there are the following options.
None.
Copyright.
Copyright and Contact Info.
All Except Camera Info.
All.
Also if you use an existing script that does SFW and use it on PSCS4 the resultant file will retain IPTC information.
Any ideas how much data this ads? "(c) Jizzy 2008" adds over 14k to an image right now (CS3). Ouch.
Adding copyright and "(c) Jizzy 2008", saving both with a quality of 100, optimized, added 3k
In CS4?
Still, I just saved the first scene of "The Tempest" as a 3k text file. Maybe I’ll go write my own "creative suite." 😉
Thanks, Anita, for taking the time to post.
Neil
But you can still strip it off.
