I have a wonderful soft spot in my heart for Arizona and this form of sanity only adds to that.
Grant
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Mine changes automatically, too. Even the clock on the kitchen wall was
right when I got up this morning! π
Whoops, I still haven’t changed the one in the car!
The time stamp on the posts in the news reader is off here. They used to be in real time (ET) and now they are an hour ahead…?? This message is posted at 11:56 EDT.
Juergen
Well it just got corrected. It’s funny though, Grant’s response to Robin’s post now shows up1 hour prior on the news reader.
Juergen
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The time stamp on the posts in the news reader is off here. They used to
be
in real time (ET) and now they are an hour ahead…?? This message is posted at 11:56 EDT.
Juergen
Grant, my PC changes it automatically…I was pissed off this morning when I woke up and found that I had lost a freekin hour !!! I can’t afford it π
Mine changes automatically, too. Even the clock on the kitchen wall was right when I got up this morning! π
I agree completely. Who benefits from daylight savings time? I always thought it was a conspiracy to befuddle the massas … notice how it happens right before taxes and elections.
At least Arizona maintains its sanity.
Robin S
Guess I’m a contrarian (no surprise): I look forward to Daylight Savings time each year and loathe Standard Time. In the dead of winter, I have to go to work in the dark, come home in the dark…..and, of course, am kept in the dark all day.
Chuck
Our clocks changed the other week … confusing isn’t it π
Wendy
Indiana doesn’t do Daylight Savings Time. My sisters live 70 miles apart in South Bend, IN and Kalamazoo, MI. They have a one-hour time difference part of the year. I think it’s time to get rid of this stupid anachronism.
Bert
Chuck,
Well why not make Daylight Savings Time permanent, then? Bert
Bert,
Our kids are in Indiana and they say there is a concerted effort in the legislature to change to DST. So, Arizona may become the lone holdout. It may well have been the farmers in Saskatchewan, but I’ll bet the "tourism" industry would have a cow if the states tried to go back.
Dick
Leen
Mark my words "digital photography is just a flash in the pan". Give it 150 years and it will be replaced buy 3D memory implant matrices …. or pigment and cave walls, depending on how well our leaders will handle our future.
Grant
The only constant truth in this universe is "And this too shall pass"
Dick,
Why do you think the tourism industry would be upset by abolishing DST?
Well, I guess because the later hour of daylight would give more people a chance to drop their bucks at an attraction. After all most of them open well after sunrise regardless of Standard or Daylight time so they can stay open later and attract more visitors.
Dick
DST is very beneficial to portrait photographers as well. Now I am able to produce environmental portraiture after my clients working hours.
Chuck, I too still remember the days I didnot see any daylight at all in the almost forgotten days spent in the darkroom. Digital end DST, a very welcome combination.
Leen
I’m with you, Chuck. I wake up at 5 AM, and I’m happy when we change the time, because I can hear the birds signing, instead of the dreadful alarm clock… Hehe!
Grant,
What’s the matter with one hour.. ? Given an average life expectancy of 70 years, for example, one entire life represents 613,200 hours. Otherwise said, this one hour you’ve been ranting about represents 1/613,200th of your life… With that insignificant change in mind, I surely don’t want to be around you when they retire your favorite tv show, or when you receive your income tax bill! π
Ray
Grant, usually I am an optimist, but I am afraid our leaders will lead us back to the caves again.
Fortunately this will stop industrial pollution to, bring an end to global warming, a new ice age will start and we will be practising our batting skills on pinguΓ―ns again.
And, we, visitors of this forum will be prepared for these times as we did practise quite a lot ahead.
π
Leen
Bert, permanent daylight savings time would work for me. However, the criticism around here is that in December and January, it’s dark in the morning until very late, creating more of a hazard for kids heading to school. I can buy that…..so we’ll continue to spring ahead and fall back.
Chuck
Some people just seem more resistant to change than others, don’t they Ray? π I happen to like Daylight Saving Time, too, but I can also see the frustration of the farmers.
I have no problem with DST when it’s fall cause then I get an extra hour to be alive for a day……just don’t like losin’ it in the spring π ….
Bob, good point! But first I have to find the manuals so I can figure out how to make those changes…..
While I’m at it, I suppose I ought to try to set the time on the VCR…….nah……I like the blinking 12:00!!
π
One thing… It’s also time to check and / or replace the fire detector’s battery. If you’ve done it last time you change the time on your clock, then it’s already been six months!
Ray
And did everyone (except Indiana and Arizona) remember to change the time in your Cameras and Camcorders? Have to keep those timestamps accurate!
Bob
Oh, geez, Chuck, how "guy-ish". Our VCRs don’t have any blinking lights. I bet Jodi’s doesn’t either, or Barbara’s, or Nancy’s. π
Time to invite some guests over for dinner.. nephews and nieces will do the job for a piece of chocolate cake and a glass of milk (below 18 y.o., that is!)
Ray
Ray, another good suggestion!
Chuck,
Don’t even look for the manuals. They may still be available on the web in PDF format. So much easier to use.
Ray,
Thanks for reminding me. Now if I can just keep from falling off the ladder.
Beth,
Either you’ve been an hour fast in the kitchen since last Fall or do you have one of those atomic clocks that gets the time via radio signal? Wish I could get that signal. I’d replace every clock in the house.
Bob
PS. In this high tech world I’m up to 20 devices that have to be set. At least both PC’s are automatic.
Ray
I have not be ranting about the loss or gain of an hour but the inconvenience of the forum not being synchronization.
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But as to the Value of Time:
To realize the value of ONE YEAR
Ask a student who has failed his exam.
To realize the value of ONE MONTH
Ask a woman who is eight months pregnant.
To realize the value of ONE WEEK
Ask an editor of a weekly.
To realize the value of ONE DAY
Ask a daily wage laborer.
To realize the value of ONE HOUR
Ask the lovers who are waiting to meet.
To realize the value of ONE MINUTE
Ask a person who has missed the train.
To realize the value of ONE SECOND
Ask a person who has just survived an accident.
To realize the value of ONE MILLI-SECOND
Ask the person who has won a silver medal in the Olympics.
To realize the value of ONE NANO-SECOND
"Ask a Hardware Engineer"!
And then, if you still don’t realize the value of time
you must be a Silicon Valley Software Engineer !!!
Grant
Yes this is the time to check our fire and smoke detector batteries, and my husband will change them even tho they are not low.
But in retirement, I dont care what the clock says, as we get up early anyway, and go to bed when we feel like it, early when the weather is bad, and the dog does the same.
The dog perhaps has more time regulation here than the clock does! Who is the time boss around here!
And the early morning is so nice, head out on the bike, or walk down thru the swamp and listen to the animals and birds before the rest of the world wakes up. The heck with the clock.
Jane
Does an atomic clock automatically set the hour hand in addition to the minute hand? I always figured it would just be the minutes; otherwise, how would it know where it was to set the hours based on time zone?
Hmmm…..
Yes, I love that atomic clock! Finally one that doesn’t require getting out the stepstool.
The main problem with changing clocks for me is that twice per year I have to travel to work on **SUNDAY** (i.e 2day) to change the clocks that are NOT automatic, such as telephone system, Security system etc etc.
However there are so many systems that now change automatically, if we did away with clock changes, I’d still probably have to make the trip to unset the clocks that reset themselves.
Is there no end to this madness!?!
Bloody Canadians.
JP
In response to a couple of questions about "atomic" clocks. Of course, they aren’t really atomic. The time is updated via satellite based on a Cesium (standard) maintained by the NBS I think.
I have a small desktop one that my wife gave me. One of the settings is Time Zone. That’s how it knows where it is. I think it only updates once a day around noon. This morning when I got up, it was still on standard time. We were gone most of the day, and when I came back this evening, it was on DS time. Sneaky devil.
Bert
Thanks for the reminders on changing batteries in smoke detectors, etc. I would add to the list…sprinkler controllers.
Bert
‘s funny. I just posted a comment about the poor (mostly dead) folks in Chernoble (See thread about woman photographers) and ran onto this one – one of the longest threads in recent weeks about cow time. Yep, I like it, but it isn’t quite as important anymore.
As long as we’re doing reminders – has everybody got the time changed on their automatic setback thermostats? That’s the one I usually forget. Except I didn’t this time.
Yep, Beth, you’re right. I forgot that one!
Here’s a link <
http://www.time.gov/> to the U.S. timekeeping site, including a Java app that displays the current "atomic" time, good to the nearest second or so. Also some interesting links for time geeks.
And a reminder for all of you that have WindowsXP, that feature is built in. Double click on the time in the system tray, click on the "internet time" tab in the properties window, tick the "synchronize" box and choose your time server.
Dick
And a reminder for all of you that have WindowsXP, that feature is built in.
Dick,
My old machine running W98 updated to DST automatically also. When I turned the machine on yesterday, I got a notice that the time had been updated.
And thanks, Beth for the reminder on the thermostat. I forgot that one too! Bert
Bert,
I was really talking about the synchronization feature in XP, it will automatically synchronize with NIST.gov on a regular basis.
Dick
was really talking about the synchronization feature in XP, it will automatically synchronize with NIST.gov on a regular basis.
Oh, sorry Dick. I thought you were talking about DST update. I have XP on my other machine, and I didn’t know about that feature, though.
Thenks.
Bert
Bless the Canadians! I love Daylight Savings Time. I can do something in the evening besides eat and go to bed.
MLee