I’m using a G5 dual with Photoshop CS2 and a 2400 printer with matte black.My Lacie electron blue is calibrated with a spyder 2 to 6500 and 2.2.
I cannot get true (anywhere close) colors on the printer. I’ve got the adobe color settings on prepress 2 and the "Print with Preview" is all set to spec and the NoColor Mgmnt is set on driver. Everything is right except the color. Epson sent a new printer; colorvision sent a new spider. This problem is a new one. Last week everything was too red. This week it’s lack of blue saturation and brightness. Really at a loss! Michael
OK, I’ve got them posted. There are four shots. Please help with this. I have no idea what the problem is. By the way, I have tried not only colormetric, but perceptual and saturated, both with and without blackpoint compensation. Thanks.
Hi John, Reasonable questions, although I’m about ready to chase with a pitchfork the next person who asks.
I’ve actually made headway, but feel farther behind. The problem is in Photoshop and has to do with profiles or gamuts I believe. The "sample" of the very cyan fish comes out perfectly. At least the 1" square of cyan color does. My file consisting of very bright royal blue does not. I’m trying now to figure out why there is a difference.
Here is the latest. When choose my own colors using the color picker, I am finding that huge sections tending toward the upper right hand quadrant, or most intense or saturated colors, are being flagged as out of gamut.
I am relatively sure that the printer would print these, but Photoshop is choosing not to allow them to be sent. They show up fine on the screen.
Ramon, I have looked at that page. I find it very difficult to follow. The directions just don’t make sense.
I know of no better explanation than what GB has laid out in his page in easy to understand layman’s terms. It has helped countless other users. If that doesn’t help you, I honestly don’t know what will. :/
From some of your other comments (e.g. on soft proofing), I gather you really need to do a lot of reading to come to terms with color management. The fact that GB’s page doesn’t "make sense" to you confirms this.
Unfortunately, the third and fourth links to your screen shots do not work ("Error 404 page not found").
There’s always the possibility of a corrupted printer profile.
Oh, you’re OK in RGB. Your Epson printer EXPECTS and RGB file, don’t send any CMYK files to it. (In that case, the printer driver would first convert your CMYK file to RGB, and then to Epson’s flavor of CcYMmKg (Cyan, Light Cyan, Yellow, Magenta, Light Magenta, Black, Light black (gray)).
Ramon, I’ll be the first to admit I’m tnot the best read at color management, but I try to keep up. I have a lot more interest in thiniking about Art than I do computers or software. One thing I do understand, however, because I have done a lot of it, is writing instructions. Let me tell you, the instructions on the page you suggested are unclear. They are not too complicated, just unclear.
As for your comments, I must profess ignorance here, too. I don’t know who you are, but if you are writing in, I imagine it must be to help. Telling me that I must be ignorant because I don’t understand something is a far cry from being helpful. If you would like to work with me to try to get this problewm solved, the same problem, in fact, that several other people seem to be having, that would be great. If you are someone who works for Adobe, then please try to help instead of towing the company no-help line.
I’m just a dumb artist who gets so frustrated with adobe that I become a danger to myself. And, by the way, those links all work perfectly.
John, thank you very much. From the directions, it truly looks like it will help.
So far I have found that the following combination works best, though not perfectly:The printer profile should be enhanced matte photo or best photo; the rendering intent should be saturated (which makes sense, since that is the problem here) and black point is a matter of choice.
John, I just tried that out and it’s great. Also, I am heeding your words about he paper. Now, some questions regarding the window, Customize Proof Condition: is it best to check the "simulate paper color" on the lower left? AND Why did my first print, the one that let me know there was a problem, look just like this proof with the checkmark in "preserve RGB Numbers?" I want to know so I can avoid it in the future. Thanks.
Related question-The color in my image is being shown as out of gamut. When I check the View/Gamut Warning, the entire background which is the out of gamut part, just turns gray. What is the purpose? Thanks for all the help. It makes my day, or maybe even week.
is it best to check the "simulate paper color" on the lower left? AND Why did my first print, the one that let me know there was a problem, look just like this proof with the checkmark in "preserve RGB Numbers?" I want to know so I can avoid it in the future. Thanks.
Go to Section 3 Soft Proofing about 3/4 down the page:
The color in my image is being shown as out of gamut. When I check the View/Gamut Warning, the entire background which is the out of gamut part, just turns gray. What is the purpose?
I never use the View/Gamut Warning so I cant help you with it. I use the soft proof method.
So far I have found that the following combination works best, though not perfectly: The printer profile should be enhanced matte photo or best photo;
Best photo? Thats not a paper profile. Enhanced Matte photo? Oh wait I think there are two profiles for EM. One is using the Matte black ink (MK) and the other using Photo black ink (PK)…which black ink is in your printer?
the rendering intent should be saturated (which makes sense, since that is the problem here) and black point is a matter of choice.
Id get the profiles worked out first before trying Saturated….Perceptual is a good starting point. Black point on.
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