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Downloaded and sitting in the Packages folder, calling out to me like some siren. I ain’t listening – I still have nightmares from getting stung by the iTunes2 update.
I am playing safe and making a spare (and complete) Retrospect Back-up first.
There are reports on Apple’s Discussions of alarming fan activity (seems to be on laptops) but I don’t know whether they are also blowing smoke and flames.
I have installed the upgrade on a spare partition I keep just for this purpose. G4, 400, 1.5 Ghz RAM. So far, there has been no misbehavior.
One small note – the upgrade said it included all security patches to date. I had not yet installed Security patch 2004-05-03. After 10.3.4 was up and running, Software Update still said I needed to apply that patch. I did. All is stable so far.
So far so good – external firewire seems to have survived the experience. Start up was very very slow though – hopefully next time around it will be quicker (the pretty little beach ball span for a while and I was worried that I had a dead Mac on my hands but eventually it got there)
Phosphor – that’s a good point. I only did the restart that the software update does for you rather than a complete shut down. Next time I need to restart the computer (usually only happens when one of the kids wants to pay an old game that needs OS9!) I’ll make sure to shut down completely and see if that helps.
I also installed using the Combo having first Repaired Permissions. (I know that Apple tell you that it is unnecessary if you are fully upgraded to 10.3.3 but it is usually the more fail-safe way to go.) I then Repaired Permissions again.
Restart after installation was slow but having run Cocktail ( it is now at version 3.4.9); shut down and then restarted; the start up time was back up to speed.
My Firewire HD was disconnected prior to doing the upgrade, and it is fine too.
I never had any problems with Safari and I haven’t had any with GoLive CS either: both are still working perfectly well after upgrading to 10.3.4. Safari is now at version1.2.2.
[But I don’t use FontBook and I do use Cocktail. Could there be a connection?]
Cindy, I might starting hitting you with some questions when I’m ready to switch to Dreamweaver. I’m currently using GoLive 6 for most everything but a few web sites I did start with 7 for CSS purposes. I don’t like 7 and I’m about ready to start using DW, which I’ve been upgrading for years and yet to use it much.
I have repeatedly tried downloading the 10.3.4 Combined Update from the Apple site, and It consistently gives me a tiny 64K file. This leads me to believe that the update may have been withdrawn. (Remember the first release of 10.2.8?)
The regular update (39.5 MB) downloads normally, in about 5 minutes.
Many others were not either, Larry. Chris Cox finally was able to replicate the problem with the MP Update, in that he was also asked to log in. There’s no pattern here, other than quirky updates.
I haven’t downloaded it yet, but Mac Fixit has good things to say about it. Here is a quote from their web site:
Being a troubleshooting site, MacFixIt normally receives far more negative reports than positive ones. In fact, if we aren’t receiving reports of problems with a piece of software, we usually aren’t receiving reports at all. However, the Mac OS X 10.3.4 Update has thus far been an exception: a significant majority of reader reports have been positive.
Additionally, attempts were made to download the Photoshop MP Update using five (5) different computers, including two (2) Windoze boxes, in three (3) different counties and using three (3) different ISPs. That leaves only the one download as it exists at the Adobe server and this three-county area in Northern California as the two possible culprits.
In the case of both the one particular Adobe update and this one particular Apple update, only this two particular files exhibit this behavior. Everything else downloads fine from both Apple and Adobe.
Are you aware of any possible pattern that would fit this picture?
My screen went blank for a few minutes tonight but I really don’t think it was related to the update. It’s happened before when I push my computer too hard. I was copying and pasting large Illustrator files along with running Photoshop and I forget what else… when the screen went blank everything quit on me. This happened once before when I was pushing the limits. The way I got the screen to come back was by attempted for force quit the finder. Once it came back I cancelled the force quit and ran Cache Out X followed by MacJanitor. I had only just run Permissions after installing the update. Tomorrow I may try what Ramon suggested with my Apple disk.
Ramon – It’s a new international pattern. Software companies that start with the letter ‘A" only in the Northern parts of countries that start with ‘C’. Of course CA is a country in this pattern. If you turn W upside down of course it’s an ‘M’ which of course is 2 a’s. That explains the Windoze machines. Haven’t you read the DaVinci code? And I’m running all of this on 10.3.4 and pushing it to the limits so that my screen is very dark….almost blank!
Seriously, Larry. In the case of the Adobe download I still suspect there may be selective IP "bans" attached to it. I was running into a similar problem at the Kodak/ASF site, contacted tech support and asked them to have their webmaster remove the ban. Within minutes, the webmaster checked and did find a slew of bans in place. He removed all of them and my problem was fixed instantly.
I have no idea how or why such selective IP bans originate, but at least the error message was pointing me in the right direction over at that site.
As for Apple, I made another attempt before going to bed last night, and that one was successful, so it appears to have had something to do with an overloaded server somewhere along the path.
Things seem to have improved since updating and running utilities.
But nobody else ever sees the spinning beach ball when using Safari? That’s a common occurance for me. However, it was just as bad or worse with IE so I’m sticking with Safari. I think it might be fonts — as Ann so gently reminds me from time to time. 🙂 I still sometimes end up installing older fonts for some projects.
Ramone and Linda – I hope that you didn’t mind me poking fun late (at my age anyway) on a Friday night. Glad that things are working better for both of you!!!!
As far as 10.3.4, I’m not braving it yet. I’ve downloaded the update but have not applied it. Way too many complaints on the Apple boards, so I’ll just wait a little longer.
The complaints that I have seen on the Apple boards mainly seem to be due to incompetent users who have installed without taking the normal steps to eject external hard drives and to Repair Permissions fore and aft.
And who knows how many haxies, freebies and even bootlegged applications they have on their machines?!
If it re-assures you, I haven’t run into a single problem since doing the upgrade.
Larry, If I seem distant it’s because my head is spinning lately and I’m preoccupied. Once I get past a certain point with the job I’m on I hope to return to more normal ADD. 🙂
Linda – AKA La chicka buena y linda que pesa poca. Tu estas muy bien sin problema con migo! Please don’t get mad when you translate that!!!!!! I don’t know how to make those simely faces.
Larry, This is what I got when I Babel Fished your text: "AKA chicka good and is contiguous that little weighs. Your these very well without problem with migo!"
"Ramon" is fine. As a matter of fact, after I became a US citizen more than 25 years ago, my legal name has been Ramon G Castaneda (no period after G). I just began using the ó and the ñ when computers, specifically the Mac, made it possible to type all characters, sort of like to let everyone know that computers had finally become aware of the rest of the world. 🙂
My first use of computers goes back to the early 1960s (Siemens and IBM behemoths), and it was a source of quiet irritation that they weren’t able to see anything beyond the letters of the English alphabet, so one had to enter the # whenever another character was encountered, regardless of what language was involved. Big relief now. 🙂 á é í ó ú ä ë ï ö ü â ê î ô û à è ì ò ù ã õ å æ ÿ fi fl A Ä Å À Ã Â Á Æ E Ë É Ê È I Í Î Ï Ì O Ö Õ Ó Ô Ò U Ü Ú Û Ù Ç ç ñ Ñ ¡ ¿
Ramon, Your computer history goes back much farther than mine. Our first Mac arrived by UPS in 1986. I didn’t touch it for about a year… I thought computers were "bad". 🙂
Linda – AKA La chicka buena y linda que pesa poca. Tu estas muy bien sin problema con migo! Please don’t get mad when you translate that!!!!!! I don’t know how to make those simely faces.
AHA even Ramon doesn’t know my secret code…. Adjectives and verbs are reversed in Spanish so …. it says…. Linda is a good and nice chica (slang for fine woman) who weighs little. You are in good standing with me.
Sorry, I had to leave to take my wife to dinner shortly after my last post and we just got back.
I could have sworn I briefly saw a post of yours in Portuguese before I left, but I can’t seem to find it now. Was that the one you edited?
In any event, this is what Larry typed:
La chicka buena y linda que pesa poca. Tú estas muy bien sin problema con migo!
and this is what I’m speculating he meant to type (I on’t want to put words in his mouth though, it’s my speculation only): La chica buena y linda que pesa poco. ¡Tú estás muy bien, sin problema conmigo!
= The good and beautiful girl who weighs [very] little. Youre fine, without a problem with me.
Linda means beautiful, pretty, gorgeous. You can use it in context and figuratively to pay a compliment, much as you would speak of a beautiful person in English. But its direct meaning is beautiful.
Now look what I started, Buko is called Ramon by his non-name also.
Buko – I agree 10.3.4 runs great. Although I’m have trouble printing 13 by 19 landscape mode prints on my 1280. I’m not sure when this started. Anyone else? One can try it in economy mode to save ink.
I’ll wait till those idiots with computers full of haxies quiet down. I’ll never know whether my custom software keyboard layouts can be considered haxies in that sense.
I’m very glad I haven’t updated yet. A couple of applications have suddenly quit on me. If I had updated, I’d be blaming it on the update.
The first one to quit was Word X (not a shocking surprise, especially while reading a 6MB document). Microsoft confirmed they shipped my free upgrade to MS Office 2004, but it’s not here yet.
I repaired permissions, repaired the disk twice in a row while booting from another volume, and then VueScan 8.0.1 suddenly quit right after the splash screen.
I’m not concerned (yet), but I’m pretty sure I would have been blaming the 10.3.4 update if I had applied it.
Linda: Don’t print in "Landscape" format. Rotate Canvas 90° instead, and print it as "Portrait" because it prints a great deal faster if you do.
Huh? Good info but might have been posted to the wrong thread? A different Linda? 🙂
Larry: Did you really want to know how to make smiley faces? I can’t seem to find that Web page with all the keyboard combinations. Maybe someone else knows…
Sorry Linda, it was Larry who posted the problem with landscape printing in message #82 — not you!
[Memo to self: go to bed at a reasonable time and don’t try to read the Forums when your eyes are half-closed from lack of sleep. (Both names start with "L" — at least I could see that bit!)]
No problem Ann… I totally identify… 🙂 If ever I say the wrong thing or don’t say the right thing when I should it’s probably for the same reason… and I tell myself the same thing…
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