Color Range Too Dark on JPG Photos

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William_G_Hill
Nov 6, 2003
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Photos loaded from camera to JPG files show up very dark and lightest color available is a dark yellow, not white. Same photos work fine in other programs.
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Beth_Haney
Nov 6, 2003
Are you noticing the color differential only in Elements? If so, you should calibrate your monitor. Elements is probably the only color-managed imaging application you have on your computer, so it will often display images differently than through the browsers of operating systems or other digital imaging programs.

You don’t say which playform you’re using. Windows machines usually have Adobe Gamma in their control panels.

Post back if you’re have trouble locating it or using it and include both your computer platform and your operating system in order to get a response targeted to your needs.
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Byron_Gale
Nov 6, 2003
William,

In addition to monitor calibration, many people find that they need to run the "IgnoreEXIF" utility, to cause Elements to ignore the camera’s (inaccurate) sRGB color space.

Follow the link for your platform from this page to download the appropriate version:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html

Speaking for myself, I got more "bang" from the IgnoreEXIF than from monitor calibration.

YMMV…

Byron
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William_G_Hill
Nov 6, 2003
I am in Windows ME. The problem happens with most, but not all, of the photos from this camera. It does not happen with those same photos in JASC7 or other simpler programs. If I take a file that does experience this, open it in JASC, save it to a different name with no mods, the color range is fine in Photoshop Elements. All files are JPG.
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jhjl1
Nov 6, 2003
What do you have color management set on in Elements? To find out go to- Edit> Color Settings

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I am in Windows ME. The problem happens with most, but not all,
of the photos from this camera. It does not happen with those same photos in JASC7 or other simpler programs. If I take a file that does experience this, open it in JASC, save it to a different name with no mods, the color range is fine in Photoshop Elements. All files are JPG.
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Byron_Gale
Nov 6, 2003
William,

As Beth mentioned, PSE is "color-managed". This means that it will scrutinize information contained within the images to determine the characteristics it should use in displaying the image’s colors.

The symptoms you describe (looks funny in PSE, looks OK everywhere else) are exactly the kind of thing which is addressed by monitor-calibration and, if necessary, the IgnoreEXIF utility.

Let us know if you see any change afterward.

Byron
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William_G_Hill
Nov 6, 2003
I am currently using No Management, but I have tried all three settings.

Again, the same photo that has been and renamed in JASC works fine inPSE
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Susan_S.
Nov 7, 2003
I second the ignore Exif and recallibrate the monitor options. They are both free and easy and solve the majority of Elements colour problems very quickly My guess is that the ignore exif utility may be more useful int this case – if switching the colour management is having no impact on how the images are looking I can almost guarantee that it will help. (it’s possible that resaving in Jasc is stripping off the EXIF info allowing Elements to show the colours properly )

Susan S.
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jhjl1
Nov 7, 2003
You are correct Susan. He said he was using Jasc PSP 7 and that version did not retain exif as the new version 8.1 does.

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I second the ignore Exif and recallibrate the monitor options.
They are both free and easy and solve the majority of Elements colour problems very quickly My guess is that the ignore exif utility may be more useful int this case – if switching the colour management is having no impact on how the images are looking I can almost guarantee that it will help. (it’s possible that resaving in Jasc is stripping off the EXIF info allowing Elements to show the colours properly )
Susan S.
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Mike_W
Feb 4, 2004
So if my camera is using sRGB and putting that into the EXIF information, I should be ok? The camera is a Minolta DImage A1, and by default uses sRGB. Of course I can change it to many other things including Adobe RGB, and it can also embed it.

If I switch to Adobe RGB, will I notice a huge difference in colour?

Thanks.
Mike
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jhjl1
Feb 4, 2004
It depends on your monitor, here is an example of the difference. http://www.pbase.com/image/25764523

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Mike_W
Feb 4, 2004
Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean that if I can see a change in shades of green and blue in the Adobe RGB portion of the image, I should theoretically notice a difference in my pictures on my monitor? i.e. my monitor has good enough colour depth.

And if not, then I need a new monitor/video card 😉

Thanks,
Mike
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jhjl1
Feb 4, 2004
A quote from Kris Z in another forum when I asked the same question.

"Unless you have one of these super duper monitors: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0310/03100701nec22adobemon.asp you can’t see all the Adobe 1998 RGB colors on your monitor, which approximates sRGB and so can only show colors within the sRGB gamut. According to Dry Creek Photo, the only real difference between sRGB and Adobe 1998 RGB (see attached image) is in the green region. This is because the Adobe color space is designed to include those colors that CMYK printers are good at reproducing but a monitor has a hard time showing."

Now with that being said I get a somewhat flat looking image with sRGB and a nicer slightly more saturated image with Adobr RGB.

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Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean that if I can see a change in
shades of green and
blue in the Adobe RGB portion of the image, I should theoretically
notice a difference in
my pictures on my monitor? i.e. my monitor has good enough colour
depth.
And if not, then I need a new monitor/video card 😉

Thanks,
Mike

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