I was on the Photoshop and Photoshop Album forum. So far, Elements and Album are the worst when it comes to speed (via a newsreader, that is), and Photoshop is almost as fast as it was before.
Hi Ray, I miss our class,, even though I got way behind, I learned so much! Saw your Challange entries, the first one is awesome, a bit of Bryce perhaps? Beautiful! This sure is a neat Challange.
I still can’t get the regular forum to work with Netscape 4, so I have to use IE. Very very slow,,,,,,, (Mac)
(Douglass=Carter, it is my maiden name, can’t remember why I use it on the IE part.) 🙂
I hope Adobe gets this back to normal soon, I need it. Jane
Forum speed is still a major issue here; it simply is unacceptable at the moment in web mode. It works a little better in newsgroup mode, but it still takes a long time for posts to be processed. Hopefully, the Adobe folks are still on the case…
Well, it is normal for this to happen when upgrading WebX. I would not be surprised if this continues for another couple of days, actually. Wouldn’t mind it so much myself if it weren’t for the purpose of something as hideous as the new interface, though.
John Cornicello, "Forums Performance Issues" #, 18 Aug 2003 8:35 am </cgi-bin/webx?50>
BTW, I have decided the new look is just too painful to waste time looking at, so I probably won’t be around here much in the future. Anyone who needs help with any mac-ish stuff, if Joe Henry and others aren’t around, please feel free to e- me at bbATseasidemusic.com.
Well, i don’t want to complain too much. I’m here in between working on graphics/taking care of little ones/ housecleaning/laundry/dishes/sunning 😎 but when i’m here I want to get through it at a ‘normal’ speed…this is MY time and i hate wasting it waiting for pages to open. I don’t want to complain though.
Hi Barbara and everybody, I hope that Adobe can put this back to normal, because I sure am having a lot of trouble too with this ‘new’ forum. I can’t even get the pages to load half the time.
I need you people! I read and study this forum daily. Could we all go over to the Yahoo Elements forum until this gets repaired? Jane Carter :frown:
Barbara, use a newsreader software (like Outlook Express). Asside from the very, very annoying :boring: and :totally_null: conversion we have for emoticons, you’ll be able to skip the interface. I know I have no intentions on reading the forum on the web myself as of now.
You know it has been almost six months ago that you were nice enough to give me detailed instructions on setting up the Adobe news group in Outlook Express. Thanks again! It really has been nice using it. (and even better right now).
I wish I could access the forum in a newsreader… but, since I’ve always accessed them via browser, I don’t know the NNTP server’s address.
Would someone mind posting the server?
Emoticonlessly yours,
Byron
(I decided to edit, just for drill, to see how it behaves in the new format. Just clicked the EDIT button after my post, and added this parenthetical note.)
Barbara – please don’t go – your contributions here are invaluable. But I do understand. This is slow and unpleasant to look at on the web based viwer. I want my old forum back (please!). Susan S
Do you still have the procedure? Now would REALLY be a good time to get it posted again. ‘Coz I know a few people that are going crazy about this change Adobe just made.
Ray, and anyone else using the news reader who hates emoticons..so you know…when you use your keyboard to make smiles and winks it shows up as emoticons on the forum 😉 ha ha ha how ironic ! ( sorry …but i thought it funny )
YAY Pete !, I don’t need the tute but thought I wanted to say that anyways. Things just aren’t the same around here anymore. I miss my old forum ;( I’m so pathetic 😐
You know, I had a rough day at work :exhausted_look: and my thoughts are not really clear currently :clouded_eyes: I sure hope there’s more icecream in the fridge to cheer me up :bpdat:, and if it’s chocolate :fridge_door_open:, so much the better :spoon_and_bowl_ready:
This is exactly, with a little sarcasm, what we’re seeing at my end, and that of many other newsreader software users like me.
No fun :thinking_of_leaving_this_board_as_well:
My point is that the translation from text to emoticons goes fine from one way to the other, but not backwards. This is an adult forum, for semi to professional users (semi includes home amateurs like me and everybody else). Avatars and emoticons just don’t seem to fit well in here. They are fine on Messengers, and again, I use them a lot (even discovered a few hidden ones!) But this is not a an informal cruising chat room. It’s a place to get help, to discuss work related issues. May I remind everybody that when a discussion gets too much out of topic, we are politely but firmly reminded to keep it on topic, and that, often it gets closed by a moderator?
Perhaps this new design would be more suited for Photoshop Lounge, Premier Parlor, or some other forums alike these?
:my_2¢_worth:
Ray P.S. 2 canadian ¢ = 1.42 US ¢… so my opinion just doesn’t represent the one of the majority, I am sure!
Jodi: I’m going to have to log onto the forum just to see your use of emoticons; the one you used in your last message in this thread was translated as "neutral". Hard to imagine Jodi as neutral….
You know, I had a rough day at work :exhausted_look: and my thoughts are not really clear currently :clouded_eyes: I sure hope there’s more icecream in the fridge to cheer me up :bpdat:, and if it’s chocolate :fridge_door_open:, so much the better :spoon_and_bowl_ready: This is exactly, with a little sarcasm, what we’re seeing at my end, and that of many other newsreader software users like me.
No fun :thinking_of_leaving_this_board_as_well:
My point is that the translation from text to emoticons goes fine from one way to the other, but not backwards. This is an adult forum, for semi to professional users (semi includes home amateurs like me and everybody else). Avatars and emoticons just don’t seem to fit well in here. They are fine on Messengers, and again, I use them a lot (even discovered a few hidden ones!) But this is not a an informal cruising chat room. It’s a place to get help, to discuss work related issues. May I remind everybody that when a discussion gets too much out of topic, we are politely but firmly reminded to keep it on topic, and that, often it gets closed by a moderator? Perhaps this new design would be more suited for Photoshop Lounge, Premier Parlor, or some other forums alike these?
:my_2¢_worth:
Ray P.S. 2 canadian ¢ = 1.42 US ¢… so my opinion just doesn’t represent the one of the majority, I am sure!
I’m with you Ray (posting from a newsreader….) Anyone know a half decent Mac OSX newsreader? – Entourage which I use for mail doesn’t thread the posts very nicely. Susan S
Is it me or is the newsreader version slower to download now as well? And I have to remember to turn the autoquotes off posting from there. Sorry about that. I think Ray is quite entitled to vent. Susan S
Well, I hope this speeds up over the next couple of days ’cause I’m at the point where I’m ready to give up. It just takes too long to go through the messages….let’s not even talk about posting…that’s a whole other show.
Susan, I think you’re right about the download/upload speed of the newsreader version being affected as well, alhtough it’s not quite as dramatic a difference here. Hopefully, they’re still ironing out the wrinkles…
Well I’m still trying to get used to this thing. I just sent Jodi an email, also asking her to use the newsreader, meaning to post it here. I guess some practice will come in handy. Sorry…
Please don’t give up! Adobe WILL fix this thing, it might take them a little time. PSE is the greatest, and this is the best place to ask and learn.
I have no clue about news groups/readers or whatever you call them, this forum when working properly, is fantastic! Everything you need is right where we can go back and read and study.
What with a massive power outage, bad weather, and this forum having problems, it’s been a nasty week. But it will all work out eventually.
The newsgroup reader is nice because you can go to the forum on your browser too if you need to for any reason. All the posts that you have read in Outlook will still be showing as unread on the web forum. But if that bothers you you can always click the "all messages" under a thread and that will mark them all as read.
But I have found that I rarely go to the web anymore.
I agree. It just takes some getting used to. I keep hitting the reply button instead of ‘reply group’… and I send out an email instead of posting here. But I’ll get it. 🙂
I’m with you Ray (posting from a newsreader….) Anyone know a half decent Mac OSX newsreader? – Entourage which I use for mail doesn’t thread the posts very nicely. Susan S
And I have to remember to turn the autoquotes off posting from there.
Actually, I asked around (not here, but in faq, or something) and was told that it’s not that they don’t want you to quote, it’s that they just don’t want you to quote entire messages. You can leave in the part that you’re actually responding to.
Terry – it certainly is a bit better – but still slower than it was. And I notice an apology sign for the slow access times has gone up at the top of the page. Susan S.
I use a newsreader, but I just used the web interface to see how it compared and it’s even slower. It was taking a full minute to display the text of the message and even then the emoticons continued to pop up across the bottom for another minute. Some pages timed out and I couldn’t access them at all.
You would need the patience of Job to use the web interface.
Speed is totally back to normal for me, and I’m using a newsreader. I suspect that part of the problem has been the internet in general, though. *Everything* was slow yesterday. I heard that someone wrote a virus that was supposed to go out, infect peoples’ Windows machines, and then do nothing but download the Windows Updates that would correct some known problem. I wonder if that slowed things down yesterday? What a virus! 😉
Using the web access to the forum is excruciating. It takes several minutes for the topic list to appear, and then a few more for the individual thread to open, completely. All of the emoticon .GIFs have to load individually, so that takes some additional time, it seems.
I set up Outlook Express, yesterday (Thanks, Pete and Ray), and have been using it since then. It responds in a reasonable amount of time.
Maybe I won’t give my 2¢ after all… suffice it to say that I have opinions. It’s clear that there are technical difficulties still to be resolved. In fairness, I think that I’ll withhold comment until the powers that be ask for input, or declare the project complete.
This morning it seemed okay. It is a little after midnight now and today it was worse than ever before. Now, at 0.45 it is a little better again, but still rather slow.
Just like Jodi I like the renewed new look. I can hardly wait till the ones working on this project can have a good nights rest.
Unfortunately the newsreader isnot a good solution for my impatience. Too many messages are missing.
It is wednesday morning in Europe now and I have been able to have a first look at the forum since yesterday morning. Because when the US went to work I wasn’t able to log into the forum at all.
Now that the US is asleep all is in order. Compared to yesterday the site is faster and the lay out has been changed again. If they tweek the lay out even further we are back to the old one we had up untill a few days ago before the system upgrade.
You’ll note the number of postings here. Perhaps that’s why. But I’m noticing not much difference between this thread and others. Once it’s been opened, the next time seems to come faster, but in between topics it’s a bummer. They say that’ll lighten up "soon" … Ugh
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