old user needs answer/idea

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News Eagle-Brian
Jan 24, 2006
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Hello All… thought I’d give this a shot after 12+ years of usage with no real idea what causes my problem. I work in the newspaper idustry and every now and then, I get a dreaded black box in place of the photo or graphic eps that is placed for output on the printout from my Laser printer. It isn’t apparent until printout-looks fine on screen. Switching printers doesn’t do the trick. Many times back-saving to 3.0 and resaving a new eps helps-but not always. Size seems to matter most, ALL the photos used in paper are never more than 72 dpi… (they look great in the news world)… but we still sometimes end up fighting the dreaded black box. Is this a memory issue? A version issue? It has happened all the way from Mac System 6 thru
9.2.2, Photoshop LE thru 6, and Apple Laserwriters, GCC Elite XL’s, and now
Xante AccelarWriter page printers….
Opinions????

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News Eagle-Brian
Jan 24, 2006
Those items don’t effect the printed page black box. Have never used jpeg because of the image degradation, I have always used Binary. Experimented with ASCI but never made and difference, and knowing it was for PC’s it wasn’t ever used. I guess I should have mentioned I’m a MAC only workplace. Thanks for the ideas though. Any one Else? DId anyone else ever have this problem?

From: tacit
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Newsgroups: alt.graphics.photoshop
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:39:27 GMT
Subject: Re: old user needs answer/idea

In article <BFFBBA6E.2AEB2%>,
News Eagle-Brian wrote:

Hello All… thought I’d give this a shot after 12+ years of usage with no real idea what causes my problem. I work in the newspaper idustry and every now and then, I get a dreaded black box in place of the photo or graphic eps that is placed for output on the printout from my Laser printer.

When you save an EPS from Photoshop, you have three options for the EPS encoding: ASCII, binary, and JPEG.

ASCII encoding is for use with IBM PCs manufactured before 1994, which have parallel port printers that can not handle 8-bit data. An ASCII file is quite a bit larger than a binary file.

A binary EPS is appropriate if you are using a PC manufactured after 1994, or you are using any other computer, or you are using a network printer rather than a 7-bit parallel port printer.

JPEG encoding compresses the EPS using JPEG compression. This degrades the quality of the image. It also causes the image not to print on anything that is not a PostScript Level 3 device. In general, you should not save an EPS with JPEG encoding.

It’s likely that it works if you backsave in Photoshop 3 because Photoshop 3 and earlier do not permit saving an EPS with JPEG encoding.

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Tacit
Jan 24, 2006
In article <BFFBBA6E.2AEB2%>,
News Eagle-Brian wrote:

Hello All… thought I’d give this a shot after 12+ years of usage with no real idea what causes my problem. I work in the newspaper idustry and every now and then, I get a dreaded black box in place of the photo or graphic eps that is placed for output on the printout from my Laser printer.

When you save an EPS from Photoshop, you have three options for the EPS encoding: ASCII, binary, and JPEG.

ASCII encoding is for use with IBM PCs manufactured before 1994, which have parallel port printers that can not handle 8-bit data. An ASCII file is quite a bit larger than a binary file.

A binary EPS is appropriate if you are using a PC manufactured after 1994, or you are using any other computer, or you are using a network printer rather than a 7-bit parallel port printer.

JPEG encoding compresses the EPS using JPEG compression. This degrades the quality of the image. It also causes the image not to print on anything that is not a PostScript Level 3 device. In general, you should not save an EPS with JPEG encoding.

It’s likely that it works if you backsave in Photoshop 3 because Photoshop 3 and earlier do not permit saving an EPS with JPEG encoding.


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Tacit
Jan 25, 2006
In article <BFFBD414.2B369%>,
News Eagle-Brian wrote:

Those items don’t effect the printed page black box. Have never used jpeg because of the image degradation, I have always used Binary. Experimented with ASCI but never made and difference, and knowing it was for PC’s it wasn’t ever used. I guess I should have mentioned I’m a MAC only workplace. Thanks for the ideas though. Any one Else? DId anyone else ever have this problem?

You have me stumped; I haven’t seen this problem.

If you save the iEPS without a preview, it will appear in a page layout program as a gray box, but it will still print properly to a PostScript printer…


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KatWoman
Jan 26, 2006
"tacit" wrote in message
In article <BFFBD414.2B369%>,
News Eagle-Brian wrote:

Those items don’t effect the printed page black box. Have never used jpeg because of the image degradation, I have always used Binary. Experimented with ASCI but never made and difference, and knowing it was for PC’s it wasn’t ever used. I guess I should have mentioned I’m a MAC only workplace.
Thanks for the ideas though. Any one Else? DId anyone else ever have this problem?

You have me stumped; I haven’t seen this problem.

If you save the iEPS without a preview, it will appear in a page layout program as a gray box, but it will still print properly to a PostScript printer…
is it possible the OP is working on Illy or other layout program files that allow you to either LINK or "save as Embedded" the eps files? Often the file contains links to images that are not found?? that’s when I see the black boxes.

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