How to buy Genuine Adobe Software for much less?

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Adobe offers select pricing to disributors, retailers, and educational users. Along these seperate distribution channels one thing remains the same, the product: they are identical in every aspect, functionality, updates, registration, legal ownership. Regardless of intention, whether it may be for personal, educational, or commercial purposes any product from the various channels can be bought and used legally.

This is part of our fundamental rights know as the "first sales doctrine" which: allows the purchaser to transfer a particular, legally acquired copy of protected work without permission once it has been obtained. That means the distribution rights of a copyright holder end on that particular copy once the copy is sold.

Simplified this means that once you have made a purchase of almost anything, you have the right to do what you want with it. A prime example would be take a car, once you puchase a vehicule, and if you decide to sell your tires, your radio, or change a genuine part for an after market part then this is your legal right. This works the same for any good obviously with certain limitations.

This applies to Adobe Software as well. As mentionned earlier you can purchase from any distribution channel and use the product legally for your intended purposes. Several courts have found that once you purchase software, you have the legal ownership and the software companies cannot restrict how the software is used and therefore have upheld the first sale doctrine.

For example, you can purchase someone’s eductional retail copy of abobe indesign, illustrator, acrobat, etc.., and use this "legally" for commercial purposes. Adobe will support this product the same way for it would for any other product and it is entirely legal. If you have doubts, please feel free to contact Adobe and you can also read further into this. (see below) Bottomline is that you are saving alot of $$$ and doing it legally. It is worth the time to inform yourselves.

This article was written by David Carnet.

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Mike Russell
Mar 25, 2006
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Adobe offers select pricing to disributors,
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Don’t fall for it. This is rationalization from a source that has a vested interest in selling gray market software.

There are legal limits on selling of educational versions that are part of the contract they sign with Adobe in return for the right to sell educational versions. There are also import restrictions on gray market products intended for distribution in other countries.

There are also individuals who make money by circumventing these restrictions, and who are good at avoiding legal penalties. This does not make it legal, nor does it guarantee that Adobe will honor upgrades from products that were sold or otherwise illegally obtained.

estockware.com is a case in point. The domain was registered four months ago, they have no web presence or reviews, and no permanent address. If you do business with them, you may get product, or you may find that they simply spend a month harvesting credit card numbers, fold their tents, and vanish. —
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
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Rudy Benner
Mar 25, 2006
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Adobe offers select pricing to disributors, retailers, and educational users. Along these seperate distribution channels one thing remains the same, the product: they are identical in every aspect, functionality,

BIG SNIP.

into this. (see below) Bottomline is that you are saving alot of $$$ and doing it legally. It is worth the time to inform yourselves.
This article was written by David Carnet.

For product information, visit: www.estockware.com

PLUNK, into the killfile with that domain.
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sales
Mar 25, 2006
Mike, I appreciate your concern for the community and I am glad there are members like you concerned for our well being and of course our pockets.

Before this topic becomes heated, please see "first sales doctrine" and read into softman vs.adobe case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Here you’ll get an understanding as to why this case was ruled in favor of softman who had been allegedly violating adobe licensing agreements. This will provide an understanding as to what exactly these licensing agreements are all about.

Please inform yourselves and you can draw your own conclusions. This is why I had the article removed.

In regards to my site, I understand there are no address or phone numbers however I will have them up shortly.
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D-Mac
Mar 25, 2006
wrote:
Mike, I appreciate your concern for the community and I am glad there are members like you concerned for our well being and of course our pockets.

Before this topic becomes heated, please see "first sales doctrine" and read into softman vs.adobe case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Here you’ll get an understanding as to why this case was ruled in favor of softman who had been allegedly violating adobe licensing agreements. This will provide an understanding as to what exactly these licensing agreements are all about.

Please inform yourselves and you can draw your own conclusions. This is why I had the article removed.

In regards to my site, I understand there are no address or phone numbers however I will have them up shortly.
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It’s not illegal to import an atomic bomb into Australia but you’d be in a heap of shit if your ever tried to use it.

The same goes for selling Educational versions of software. It’s not illegal to sell it to anyone – regardless of them being students or not. Just try and use it for commercial purposes and see how you go in a court action. All you are doing is shirking responsibility with the knowledge that your customer is almost certainly breaking the law if they use it.

You sir, are a parasite on the face of humanity. Profiteering at the expense of the people you dupe. You use a loophole in the law to sell the stuff knowing your customer is breaking the law if they use it outside a narrow use area and turn you back, claiming it’s not your problem if they get caught. Take you spam somewhere else.
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sales
Mar 25, 2006
"You sir, are a parasite on the face of humanity." ???????????????

You know what? I proceeded to make my argument in a professional manner, apparently some of you are not intellectual enough to make your arguments without slander. Challenge me using factual information.

If you can prove, provide factual information to discredit me then and only then you should post anything. Show me an example of someone who has been brought to court for this reason, I made a statement and I provided information supporting my argument, I did not insult anyone in doing so, I will not resort to this either to convey my point across.

Softman VS Adobe, read and learn..
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Roy G
Mar 25, 2006
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"You sir, are a parasite on the face of humanity." ???????????????
You know what? I proceeded to make my argument in a professional manner, apparently some of you are not intellectual enough to make your arguments without slander. Challenge me using factual information.
If you can prove, provide factual information to discredit me then and only then you should post anything. Show me an example of someone who has been brought to court for this reason, I made a statement and I provided information supporting my argument, I did not insult anyone in doing so, I will not resort to this either to convey my point across.
Softman VS Adobe, read and learn..

He is correct, to a certain extent.

Under Common law if you buy something it becomes entirely your property and you may do whatever you please with it. The previous owner has no rights in it, once it is sold.

(That principle is going to bite the printer Manufacturers one of these days, and the EU is already looking).

Software however may well be different, you are not actually buying a copy, you are buying the right to use a copy.

If the Software Cd gets scratched, you can usually have it replaced either Free, or at nominal cost.

Adobe however, from what I have read, are not too good at replacing previous edition Cds.

They may therefore have removed themselves from the benefit of only selling the right to use the product.

They can’t have it both ways.

Roy G

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