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.. Want to upgrade from 7. Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

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Madsen
Mar 27, 2005
Kei Lasch wrote:

Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

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Derek Fountain
Mar 28, 2005
. Want to upgrade from 7. Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

May to the USA, maybe June to the rest of the world. It really looks like a pretty minor update though.


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Scott Peterson
Mar 28, 2005
"Thomas G. Madsen" wrote:

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Derek Fountain
Mar 28, 2005
< http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/2004 04/040405Photoshop.html>

since been removed.

Not before Google cached it:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:ikpkIo53mrMJ:www.adobe. com/aboutadobe/ pressroom/pressreleases/200404/040405Photoshop.html+photosho p+cs2&hl=en

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Eric Gill
Mar 28, 2005
Derek Fountain wrote in
news:42478518$0$31368$:

. Want to upgrade from 7. Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

May to the USA, maybe June to the rest of the world. It really looks like a pretty minor update though.

WHAT?!?

But it has a new and very special feature to let loyal customers buy more stuff from Adobe right out of the Browser…er, that is "Bridge."

This is TERRIBLY exciting news for us all!
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Richard Kenward
Mar 28, 2005
In his posting of Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Derek Fountain writes
. Want to upgrade from 7. Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

May to the USA, maybe June to the rest of the world. It really looks like a pretty minor update though.

Well as far as I am concerned I will be sticking with PS 7. You really would have thought they would have had sufficient time to have implemented 64bit processing and allowed us to use the ram our OS’s can address. On own goal for Adobe.

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jjs
Mar 28, 2005
"Richard Kenward" wrote in message

Well as far as I am concerned I will be sticking with PS 7. You really would have thought they would have had sufficient time to have implemented 64bit processing and allowed us to use the ram our OS’s can address.

What OS are you using, and are you certain it is a _fully qualified_ 64-bit OS?
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Peer K
Mar 28, 2005
jjs wrote:

Well as far as I am concerned I will be sticking with PS 7. You really would have thought they would have had sufficient time to have implemented 64bit processing and allowed us to use the ram our OS’s can address.

What OS are you using, and are you certain it is a _fully qualified_ 64-bit OS?

The announced CS2 puzzled me a bit as well.. Why aren’t Adobe waiting another month and delivering a 64bit version for XP (due out in an 64bit version next month)?
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jjs
Mar 28, 2005
"Peer K" wrote in message
jjs wrote:

Well as far as I am concerned I will be sticking with PS 7. You really would have thought they would have had sufficient time to have implemented 64bit processing and allowed us to use the ram our OS’s can address.

What OS are you using, and are you certain it is a _fully qualified_ 64-bit OS?

The announced CS2 puzzled me a bit as well.. Why aren’t Adobe waiting another month and delivering a 64bit version for XP (due out in an 64bit version next month)?

Upgrading software to 64bit is a huge job! It’s not merely a job of redefining the word size (as some Computer Science 101ers think). A big word is a big pain in the ass. Besides, Adobe would have to have had an outstanding pre-release relationship with both Micro$oft and Apple so that Adobe’s software worked with the vendors’ OS bugs; not a cool thing to do. Perhaps Adobe is being, _responsible_ and waiting. Eh?

Let’s see how y’all jumping onto the 64-bit WindoZe and Macintosh feel after you are runnning it for a while.

Friggin rag-brained consumers, anyway.
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Hecate
Mar 28, 2005
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:28:49 -0600, "jjs" wrote:

Friggin rag-brained consumers, anyway.
hahahahahaha!



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Derek Fountain
Mar 29, 2005
The announced CS2 puzzled me a bit as well.. Why aren’t Adobe waiting another month and delivering a 64bit version for XP (due out in an 64bit version next month)?

Probably because Adobe are marketing to professionals, rather than clueless consumers who believe all the 64 bit hype they read.

As a software developer of enterprise strength applications, I’ve been using 64 bit technologies for years (on proper workstations, not PCs), and take it from me, it isn’t the quantum leap the marketeers will have you believe. I’ve used 64 bit Linux and it looks just like 32 bit Linux. Benchmarks will tell you it’s a bit faster, but not significantly so. You probably wouldn’t notice the difference unless you did something very specific. In some cases current 64 bit CPUs perform slower than 32 bit versions.

Have a look at the current top 500 supercomputer list:

http://www.top500.org/sublist/stats/index.php?list=2004-11-3 0&type=procfam&submit=Generate+Table

Well over 70% are based on 32 bit processor families. There’s a reason for that: in most cases there’s no particular advantage in running 64 bit kit.

64 bit Windows is a marketing ploy from Intel and Microsoft to get people to buy new computers, little more.


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Roberto
Mar 29, 2005
I could be wrong, but I think the biggest advantage 64-bit will have is the loss of the 2GB memory limit per application. This alone could make a real difference for Photoshop. Now Microsoft Word and programs like that I doubt most will care.

"Derek Fountain" wrote in message
The announced CS2 puzzled me a bit as well.. Why aren’t Adobe waiting another month and delivering a 64bit version for XP (due out in an 64bit version next month)?

Probably because Adobe are marketing to professionals, rather than clueless
consumers who believe all the 64 bit hype they read.

As a software developer of enterprise strength applications, I’ve been using
64 bit technologies for years (on proper workstations, not PCs), and take it from me, it isn’t the quantum leap the marketeers will have you believe.
I’ve used 64 bit Linux and it looks just like 32 bit Linux. Benchmarks will
tell you it’s a bit faster, but not significantly so. You probably wouldn’t
notice the difference unless you did something very specific. In some cases
current 64 bit CPUs perform slower than 32 bit versions.
Have a look at the current top 500 supercomputer list:

http://www.top500.org/sublist/stats/index.php?list=2004-11-3 0&type=procfam&submit=Generate+Table

Well over 70% are based on 32 bit processor families. There’s a reason for that: in most cases there’s no particular advantage in running 64 bit kit.
64 bit Windows is a marketing ploy from Intel and Microsoft to get people to
buy new computers, little more.


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href="http://www.derekfountain.org/">Derek Fountain</a>
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Derek Fountain
Mar 29, 2005
I could be wrong, but I think the biggest advantage 64-bit will have is the loss of the 2GB memory limit per application. This alone could make a real difference for Photoshop. Now Microsoft Word and programs like that I doubt most will care.

That’s an artificial limitation imposed by Microsoft and, presumably since I don’t know for sure, Apple. Linux defaults to 3GB per process on 32 bit hardware, with the realistic limit for standard configurations about
3.75GB. But yes, you need 64 bit memory handling (or some very clever and
slow hacks) to go beyond that.


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Clyde
Mar 29, 2005
Peer K wrote:
jjs wrote:

Well as far as I am concerned I will be sticking with PS 7. You really would have thought they would have had sufficient time to have implemented 64bit processing and allowed us to use the ram our OS’s can address.

What OS are you using, and are you certain it is a _fully qualified_ 64-bit OS?

The announced CS2 puzzled me a bit as well.. Why aren’t Adobe waiting another month and delivering a 64bit version for XP (due out in an 64bit version next month)?

Oh… They might want to wait until 64 bit OSs are stable, reliable, and a known product.

Clyde
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jjs
Mar 29, 2005
"Derek Fountain" wrote in message

That’s an artificial limitation imposed by Microsoft and, presumably since I
don’t know for sure, Apple. Linux defaults to 3GB per process on 32 bit hardware, with the realistic limit for standard configurations about
3.75GB. But yes, you need 64 bit memory handling (or some very clever and
slow hacks) to go beyond that.

I’m tempted to dust off the DEC Alpha 4000. 🙂
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Hecate
Mar 29, 2005
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:34:51 +0800, Derek Fountain
wrote:

I could be wrong, but I think the biggest advantage 64-bit will have is the loss of the 2GB memory limit per application. This alone could make a real difference for Photoshop. Now Microsoft Word and programs like that I doubt most will care.

That’s an artificial limitation imposed by Microsoft and, presumably since I don’t know for sure, Apple. Linux defaults to 3GB per process on 32 bit hardware, with the realistic limit for standard configurations about
3.75GB. But yes, you need 64 bit memory handling (or some very clever and
slow hacks) to go beyond that.

Not quite. 32 bit apps/OS cannot address/use the 16 Tb of RAM that is the theoretical maximum of 64 bit addressing/systems.

And it is the extra memory availability that will make much of the difference.

However, as with all new advances it is quite likely that 64 bit will allow improvements that people haven’t even thought of yet. And no, I’m not an enterprise level developer – my partner is and she has a PhD to prove it 😉



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Derek Fountain
Mar 30, 2005
I could be wrong, but I think the biggest advantage 64-bit will have is the loss of the 2GB memory limit per application. This alone could make a real difference for Photoshop. Now Microsoft Word and programs like that I doubt most will care.

That’s an artificial limitation imposed by Microsoft and, presumably since I don’t know for sure, Apple. Linux defaults to 3GB per process on 32 bit hardware, with the realistic limit for standard configurations about
3.75GB. But yes, you need 64 bit memory handling (or some very clever and
slow hacks) to go beyond that.

Not quite. 32 bit apps/OS cannot address/use the 16 Tb of RAM that is the theoretical maximum of 64 bit addressing/systems.

I know, I never said otherwise. I said that the 2GB limit is an artificial limitation. If they lifted it a Gig – which is perfectly possible – at least some 32 bit users would be quite a bit happier.


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Hecate
Mar 30, 2005
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:37:28 +0800, Derek Fountain
wrote:

I could be wrong, but I think the biggest advantage 64-bit will have is the loss of the 2GB memory limit per application. This alone could make a real difference for Photoshop. Now Microsoft Word and programs like that I doubt most will care.

That’s an artificial limitation imposed by Microsoft and, presumably since I don’t know for sure, Apple. Linux defaults to 3GB per process on 32 bit hardware, with the realistic limit for standard configurations about
3.75GB. But yes, you need 64 bit memory handling (or some very clever and
slow hacks) to go beyond that.

Not quite. 32 bit apps/OS cannot address/use the 16 Tb of RAM that is the theoretical maximum of 64 bit addressing/systems.

I know, I never said otherwise. I said that the 2GB limit is an artificial limitation. If they lifted it a Gig – which is perfectly possible – at least some 32 bit users would be quite a bit happier.

Yes, they would. But the assumption from what you said was that 64 bit wouldn’t make a lot of difference and I think that it will because of the increased memory addressing, that’s all. 🙂



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Chris Cox
Apr 7, 2005
In article
<42478518$0$31368$>, Derek
Fountain wrote:

. Want to upgrade from 7. Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

May to the USA, maybe June to the rest of the world. It really looks like a pretty minor update though.

Then you need to read the list of new features.
It’s far from minor.

Chris
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ahall
Apr 8, 2005
Chris Cox writes:

Chris> In article
42478518$0$31368$>, Derek
Chris> Fountain wrote:

. Want to upgrade from 7. Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

May to the USA, maybe June to the rest of the world. It really looks like a pretty minor update though.

Chris> Then you need to read the list of new features. Chris> It’s far from minor.

Would you be willing to say what you think the
biggest changes are?


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Chris Cox
Apr 10, 2005
In article ,
wrote:

Chris Cox writes:

Chris> In article
42478518$0$31368$>, Derek
Chris> Fountain wrote:

. Want to upgrade from 7. Does anybody know when Photoshop or graphics suite CS2 will be released

May to the USA, maybe June to the rest of the world. It really looks like a pretty minor update though.

Chris> Then you need to read the list of new features. Chris> It’s far from minor.

Would you be willing to say what you think the
biggest changes are?

The HDR features are the biggest change.
But there’s a difference between my view of changes (code) and your view (workflow) 😉

For most users things like Smart Objects, Smart Sharpen, Reduce Noise, menu customization, multi-layer selection, Vanishing Point, Warping, etc. are going to make the biggest impact on their workflow.

Which ones make the biggest impact to you will very much depend on the work you do. And frequently some of the small things make the big changes in your work.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/newfeatures.html

Chris
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Bart van der Wolf
Apr 10, 2005
SNIP
Would you be willing to say what you think the
biggest changes are?

The HDR features are the biggest change.
But there’s a difference between my view of changes (code) and your view (workflow) 😉

I think that could be an important step forward for both views. It does depend on how it’s implemented though.

For most users things like Smart Objects, Smart Sharpen, Reduce Noise, menu customization, multi-layer selection, Vanishing Point, Warping, etc. are going to make the biggest impact on their workflow.

Yes, again depending on the implementation, those seem significant changes from both code and workflow perspectives, especially for those of us that do a lot of image (re)construction.

Bart
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noone
Apr 11, 2005
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wrote:

[SNIP]

Would you be willing to say what you think the
biggest changes are?

The HDR features are the biggest change.
But there’s a difference between my view of changes (code) and your view (workflow) 😉

For most users things like Smart Objects, Smart Sharpen, Reduce Noise, menu customization, multi-layer selection, Vanishing Point, Warping, etc. are going to make the biggest impact on their workflow.
Which ones make the biggest impact to you will very much depend on the work you do. And frequently some of the small things make the big changes in your work.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/newfeatures.html

Chris

I agree. To some, even small changes benefit their personal workflow. S&H in CS was worth the price of the upgrade alone – for me.

The only upgrade that I did not choose to get was 5.5, as I wasn’t doing much Web work then and already had Fireworks for those few jobs. To me, each upgrade has been worth MORE than the price of the new program. Only problem that I had was about 4, when I had a big job on the machine, and kept working away on 3.x, because I had a deadline and knew that ver better. Boy, when I finally opened up 4 (it had already become 4.01 by then), I realized how much extra work I had just done! However, because most of what I do has a tight schedule, I always keep the old "standby" up and running, until I get the feel for the new one. I still keep 4.01 on one particular machine because of the way it handles one client’s needs for special spot-color processing. I only use it about twice per year, but for those two times, the HDD space that it occupies is well worth it.

Let me just say thanks to Adobe and the PS team. You make my life so much easier, and more profitable.

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