Graphics Tablets Help (new guy)

You may want to check on ebay for a Medion tablet. I bought one and it is great. It is 9"x12" and comes with the pen and a mouse. You can get one there for under $125.00. These were being sold at the grocery chain Aldi’s for $39.00 a few months ago but sold out in like a day. Medion is a German computer company like Dell is in the US.

Todd

"Nv8r Blak" wrote in message

Wassup people… just wondering if anyone had any experience with or

advise

on getting a graphics tablet. I’m looking at the Graphite 3 from Wacom

but

any suggestions or usfull info before I put down my hard earned $100 bucks (my allowance from my wife) would be helpfull. And if you know of another tablet just as good or better for around $100 let me know. I only have

that

much for now untill I land the big graphic design contract and can shell

out

$300 for a new toy ( or I do some extra chores and my wife pays me more allowance). Thanks

"Todd Felmly" wrote in message

You may want to check on ebay for a Medion tablet. I bought one and it is great. It is 9"x12" and comes with the pen and a mouse. You can get one there for under $125.00. These were being sold at the grocery chain Aldi’s for $39.00 a few months ago but sold out in like a day. Medion is a German computer company like Dell is in the US.

Todd

"Nv8r Blak" wrote in message

Wassup people… just wondering if anyone had any experience with or

advise

on getting a graphics tablet. I’m looking at the Graphite 3 from Wacom

but

any suggestions or usfull info before I put down my hard earned $100

bucks

(my allowance from my wife) would be helpfull. And if you know of

another

tablet just as good or better for around $100 let me know. I only have

that

much for now untill I land the big graphic design contract and can shell

out

$300 for a new toy ( or I do some extra chores and my wife pays me more allowance). Thanks

I saved a little longer and got the Wacom Intuos 6×8 and love it. I would have liked the 9×12, but just could not justify the added cost. The 6×8 size is convenient. I use mine primarily while working on retouching scanned photos, but I’ve come to like it as a general pointing device with most of the Creative Suite. What I like is the pressure sensitivity response of the Intuos vs the Graphire.

If you get a waccom you’ll never go back. I have the waccom 3 , unless you’re actually doing large autocad designs , this is all you’ll need as the programmable bar of the higher priced ones will be unused. "Nv8r Blak" wrote in message

Wassup people… just wondering if anyone had any experience with or

advise

on getting a graphics tablet. I’m looking at the Graphite 3 from Wacom

but

any suggestions or usfull info before I put down my hard earned $100 bucks (my allowance from my wife) would be helpfull. And if you know of another tablet just as good or better for around $100 let me know. I only have

that

much for now untill I land the big graphic design contract and can shell

out

$300 for a new toy ( or I do some extra chores and my wife pays me more allowance). Thanks

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:01:02 GMT, "Nv8r Blak"
wrote:

Wassup people… just wondering if anyone had any experience with or advise on getting a graphics tablet. I’m looking at the Graphite 3 from Wacom but any suggestions or usfull info before I put down my hard earned $100 bucks (my allowance from my wife) would be helpfull. And if you know of another tablet just as good or better for around $100 let me know. I only have that much for now untill I land the big graphic design contract and can shell out $300 for a new toy ( or I do some extra chores and my wife pays me more allowance). Thanks.

There are other companies making nice tablets. But no one ever reviews them. This is a damn shame.

How can artists make a choice when Wacom monopolize the magazine reviews?! If there is nothing else being reviewed how can you say Wacom is the best?!

Well, I will review a $50 UC-Logic tablet in a frew days (shipped out yesterday). The Wacom media monopoly must end now!

P.S., I used to own 2 Wacoms Intuos but sold them cause felt they’re weren’t worth the price (good resale value though). Another reason I sold the Wacom is because I tried a UC-Logic tablet for a bit and it felt far more responsive. So, I decided to go UC-Logic instead.

Stay tuned for a review in a few days. I will do a fair comparison between UC-Logic and Wacom Intuos and possibly shatter a long standing myth!.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:43:45 -0800, jonalouvjona
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:01:02 GMT, "Nv8r Blak"
wrote:

Wassup people… just wondering if anyone had any experience with or advise on getting a graphics tablet. I’m looking at the Graphite 3 from Wacom but any suggestions or usfull info before I put down my hard earned $100 bucks (my allowance from my wife) would be helpfull. And if you know of another tablet just as good or better for around $100 let me know. I only have that much for now untill I land the big graphic design contract and can shell out $300 for a new toy ( or I do some extra chores and my wife pays me more allowance). Thanks.

There are other companies making nice tablets. But no one ever reviews them. This is a damn shame.

How can artists make a choice when Wacom monopolize the magazine reviews?! If there is nothing else being reviewed how can you say Wacom is the best?!

Quite easily. The reason you don’t see reviews of the other tablets is because there really isn’t any comparison and one review from someone who displays such a bias against Wacom won’t change anything I’m afraid.

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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 02:49:12 +0000, Hecate wrote:

Quite easily. The reason you don’t see reviews of the other tablets is because there really isn’t any comparison and one review from someone who displays such a bias against Wacom won’t change anything I’m afraid.

It’s small minded (and uneducated, by your use of circular reasoning) people like you that has caused consumers to suffer and corporations to plunder our pocketbooks and kill our troops.

Remember, I’m offering to give a comparitive review that none of you can, nor can magazines. I’ve been waiting for others to review other tablets but no one is willing so I had to take the initiative.

Choice is better. Competition is better. Monopoly hurts consumers … drives up prices and stifles innovation.

By your fear of my review, I must ask (I’m sure others are suspicious), do you work for Wacom? If so, what do you have to fear if you think Wacoms are the best?

P.S. I’ve owned and used Wacom Intuos (4×5 and 6×8) tablets for 3 years. Using a pen (vs a mouse) is nice for artwork, selections and touchups but I didn’t feel it was worth it’s $300/tablet pricetag.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:35:47 -0800, jonalouvjona
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 02:49:12 +0000, Hecate wrote:

Quite easily. The reason you don’t see reviews of the other tablets is because there really isn’t any comparison and one review from someone who displays such a bias against Wacom won’t change anything I’m afraid.

It’s small minded (and uneducated, by your use of circular reasoning) people like you that has caused consumers to suffer and corporations to plunder our pocketbooks and kill our troops.

hahaha! That is *so* over the top it just illustrates my point about bias.

Remember, I’m offering to give a comparitive review that none of you can, nor can magazines. I’ve been waiting for others to review other tablets but no one is willing so I had to take the initiative.

Comparative reviews require objectivity. You’ve shown you have none.

Choice is better. Competition is better. Monopoly hurts consumers … drives up prices and stifles innovation.

At last, something I can agree with.. However, competition for competitions sake does no one any favours. I’m not going to use substandard equipment just for the sake of having competition.

By your fear of my review, I must ask (I’m sure others are suspicious), do you work for Wacom? If so, what do you have to fear if you think Wacoms are the best?

I don’t "fear" your review. I question your objectivity.

Never been near a Wacom building in my life. However, just to fuel your conspiracy theory, I have worked for the government (the British one)>

P.S. I’ve owned and used Wacom Intuos (4×5 and 6×8) tablets for 3 years. Using a pen (vs a mouse) is nice for artwork, selections and touchups but I didn’t feel it was worth it’s $300/tablet pricetag.

I’ve used, and use Wacom. I tried out an aipshit one once. It was crap. I’ve used the same Wacom tablet now for about ten years and the prices they charge are good value for money because of their build quality. And when your income depends on your equipment, not having to replace that equipment constantly through lack of build quality is a major factor.

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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:59:45 -0500, "Tin Ear" wrote:

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I saved a little longer and got the Wacom Intuos 6×8 and love it. I would have liked the 9×12, but just could not justify the added cost. The 6×8 size is convenient. I use mine primarily while working on retouching scanned photos, but I’ve come to like it as a general pointing device with most of the Creative Suite. What I like is the pressure sensitivity response of the Intuos vs the Graphire.

In my experience, the Intuos tablets are far superior in both performance and durability. I’ve had a couple Graphire tablets, and neither lasted more than a few months. The tablet became erratic on one of them, and the cheapo mouse of the other one fell apart. My Intuos 2 has held up perfectly for 2 years now and I can find no faults whatever. Great pen, and the mouse is waaay better.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 02:49:12 +0000, Hecate wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:43:45 -0800, jonalouvjona
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:01:02 GMT, "Nv8r Blak"
wrote:

Wassup people… just wondering if anyone had any experience with or advise on getting a graphics tablet. I’m looking at the Graphite 3 from Wacom but any suggestions or usfull info before I put down my hard earned $100 bucks (my allowance from my wife) would be helpfull. And if you know of another tablet just as good or better for around $100 let me know. I only have that much for now untill I land the big graphic design contract and can shell out $300 for a new toy ( or I do some extra chores and my wife pays me more allowance). Thanks.

There are other companies making nice tablets. But no one ever reviews them. This is a damn shame.

How can artists make a choice when Wacom monopolize the magazine reviews?! If there is nothing else being reviewed how can you say Wacom is the best?!

Quite easily. The reason you don’t see reviews of the other tablets is because there really isn’t any comparison and one review from someone who displays such a bias against Wacom won’t change anything I’m afraid.

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What’s more important than small differences between brands is which ones are fully supported by Photoshop and other graphics programs you may plan to use. The Wacom units have longstanding support by Adobe and a good track record, at least for the Intuos series.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:04:32 GMT, KBob wrote:

In my experience, the Intuos tablets are far superior in both performance and durability. I’ve had a couple Graphire tablets, and neither lasted more than a few months. The tablet became erratic on one of them, and the cheapo mouse of the other one fell apart. My Intuos 2 has held up perfectly for 2 years now and I can find no faults whatever. Great pen, and the mouse is waaay better.

I haven’t used a Graphire. Why? Because I bought the forerunner, the Artpad II a long time ago and it’s still giving me great service and is solid. However, I’m pretty fed up with the serial connection and soon, there won’t be any of those. So, I’ll probably buy the A5 graphire.

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Someone mentioned the Intuos being pressure sensitive and the Graphir isn’t. I have the Graphire and its pressure sensitive as well. I jus had a hell of a time getting used to it. They are great for makin selections and drawing but I still don’t like navigating application with it. I loathe touchpads and thats what it is really. The absolut pointer positioning only took a day or two to get used to.

I’d recommend one to anyone who is doing any kind of serious art o graphics work on a PC, can’t live without it

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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:35:47 -0800, jonalouvjona
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 02:49:12 +0000, Hecate wrote:

Quite easily. The reason you don’t see reviews of the other tablets is because there really isn’t any comparison and one review from someone who displays such a bias against Wacom won’t change anything I’m afraid.

It’s small minded (and uneducated, by your use of circular reasoning) people like you that has caused consumers to suffer and corporations to plunder our pocketbooks and kill our troops.

hahaha! That is *so* over the top it just illustrates my point about bias.

Remember, I’m offering to give a comparitive review that none of you can, nor can magazines. I’ve been waiting for others to review other tablets but no one is willing so I had to take the initiative.

Comparative reviews require objectivity. You’ve shown you have none.

Choice is better. Competition is better. Monopoly hurts consumers … drives up prices and stifles innovation.

At last, something I can agree with.. However, competition for competitions sake does no one any favours. I’m not going to use substandard equipment just for the sake of having competition.

By your fear of my review, I must ask (I’m sure others are suspicious), do you work for Wacom? If so, what do you have to fear if you think Wacoms are the best?

I don’t "fear" your review. I question your objectivity.
Never been near a Wacom building in my life. However, just to fuel your conspiracy theory, I have worked for the government (the British one)>

P.S. I’ve owned and used Wacom Intuos (4×5 and 6×8) tablets for 3 years. Using a pen (vs a mouse) is nice for artwork, selections and touchups but I didn’t feel it was worth it’s $300/tablet pricetag.

I’ve used, and use Wacom. I tried out an aipshit one once. It was crap. I’ve used the same Wacom tablet now for about ten years and the prices they charge are good value for money because of their build quality. And when your income depends on your equipment, not having to replace that equipment constantly through lack of build quality is a major factor.

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So no review then? Objective or otherwise?
Man…

=)

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:28:10 GMT, "Dr. J. Smith" wrote:

I’ve used, and use Wacom. I tried out an aipshit one once. It was crap. I’ve used the same Wacom tablet now for about ten years and the prices they charge are good value for money because of their build quality. And when your income depends on your equipment, not having to replace that equipment constantly through lack of build quality is a major factor.

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So no review then? Objective or otherwise?
Man…

Yes. If you want an objective review all you have to do is purchase a copy of Digital Photo (a UK mag) where they reviewed (IIRC) 13 different tablets. There were two recommendations for a budget award from people other than Wacom. They did, however point out that the "pointing devices were fragile" and that the "build quality left something to be desired". All the other awards went to Wacom.

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"Hecate" wrote in message

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:28:10 GMT, "Dr. J. Smith" wrote:

I’ve used, and use Wacom. I tried out an aipshit one once. It was crap. I’ve used the same Wacom tablet now for about ten years and the prices they charge are good value for money because of their build quality. And when your income depends on your equipment, not having to replace that equipment constantly through lack of build quality is a major factor.

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So no review then? Objective or otherwise?
Man…

Yes. If you want an objective review all you have to do is purchase a copy of Digital Photo (a UK mag) where they reviewed (IIRC) 13 different tablets. There were two recommendations for a budget award from people other than Wacom. They did, however point out that the "pointing devices were fragile" and that the "build quality left something to be desired". All the other awards went to Wacom.
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HEY! You erased my smiley! We don’t cotton to that kind of behaviour in these here parts. But…
thanks for the input, I’m trying to swing an Intuos through a wholesaler. ~Doc

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 05:06:21 GMT, "Dr. J. Smith" wrote:

So no review then? Objective or otherwise?
Man…

Yes. If you want an objective review all you have to do is purchase a copy of Digital Photo (a UK mag) where they reviewed (IIRC) 13 different tablets. There were two recommendations for a budget award from people other than Wacom. They did, however point out that the "pointing devices were fragile" and that the "build quality left something to be desired". All the other awards went to Wacom.
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HEY! You erased my smiley! We don’t cotton to that kind of behaviour in these here parts. But…
thanks for the input, I’m trying to swing an Intuos through a wholesaler. ~Doc

Ooops, sorry 🙂

Hope it helped 🙂

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"Hecate" wrote in message

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 05:06:21 GMT, "Dr. J. Smith" wrote:

So no review then? Objective or otherwise?
Man…

Yes. If you want an objective review all you have to do is purchase a copy of Digital Photo (a UK mag) where they reviewed (IIRC) 13 different tablets. There were two recommendations for a budget award from people other than Wacom. They did, however point out that the "pointing devices were fragile" and that the "build quality left something to be desired". All the other awards went to Wacom.
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HEY! You erased my smiley! We don’t cotton to that kind of behaviour in these here parts. But…
thanks for the input, I’m trying to swing an Intuos through a wholesaler. ~Doc

Ooops, sorry 🙂

Hope it helped 🙂

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Well the info helped up to the "all you have to do is" statement since I’m not in the UK, but the critical point is my smiley is now cowering under my Ctrl key, a definite problem with using shortcuts, thank you very much. I see you keep your smileys very close to your statements, a practice I’ll keep in mind in the future in this unsafe environment. But we digress, on to more important things like pixels and such…. by the way, it would probably take surgery to remove my tongue from my cheek, but I’m guessing you’re on to that already…

~Doc

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 04:51:46 GMT, "Dr. J. Smith" wrote:

Well the info helped up to the "all you have to do is" statement since I’m not in the UK, but the critical point is my smiley is now cowering under my Ctrl key, a definite problem with using shortcuts, thank you very much. I see you keep your smileys very close to your statements, a practice I’ll keep in mind in the future in this unsafe environment. But we digress, on to more important things like pixels and such…. by the way, it would probably take surgery to remove my tongue from my cheek, but I’m guessing you’re on to that already…

"Tongue in cheek"? Is that a PS plug-in? 😉

If you want the info from the mag, give me a price point ($ will do) and I’ll dig out the article and let you have the relevant reviews by mail. 🙂

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"Hecate" wrote in message

wrote:

"Tongue in cheek"? Is that a PS plug-in? 😉

Actually it is indeed! No matter how interesting of an effect you produce with it it won’t return the result as it assumes you didn’t mean it anyway. ~Doc

btw// …article not necessary =)